I Get it...I Dont Get it Response

Atheism is a tough place to be... Where would you find, meaning, hope, how would you explain moral law or love. How could you say that I'm wrong should I choose to harm you, would i not just be acting out in accordance with how is was created.. mere animal instinct driving me..where do you go with the question of right and wrong....and much more?

IF you don't thats fine...But be open to more revelation...

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• atheism
• christianity

[adamdimora]

Your problem is that you ADMIT that you start out bias....You say "I personally don't want a God" and "The thought of a God existing makes me sick"..is someone with this mindset really going to be considered a non biased judge of the evidence...of course not..with that starting point no judge in the world would allow you as a juror. What is need to do is press the reset button, and begin "looking" at the clues, the evidence, presented with no personal care for where the evidence may lead.

[adamdimora]

I could care less about the he said she said crap. I quoted Romans 6...God is plainly saying when you read the text that..one of the most blatant ways he has manifested some of himself and attributes is within the creation itself. Just as a painting reflects the attributes of the painter...this in no way....If you were a first century christian staring into the eyes of lions that your being fed to for your faith there is not "I just want there to be a god in that moment...It REALITY.

[adamdimora]

1.By default a God that created Time and Space is obviously outside of it...

2.God has stated about himself that He is infinite and Eternal

3.I didn't admit that it was impossible to understand Revelation from God..for the very word mean to "Unveil"..So if god chooses to show us something.. the obvious purpose is for us to understand it. What I did say is that a finite mind can not think that he will ever be able to fully understand the infinite...that is impossible..God Reveals and we do "SEE"

[Cafeeine]

I don't think even theists can imagine god. Not by the usual definitions anyways. The abrahamic gods are defined in a way that defies imagination. I think theists who claim they can imagine their god actually have in mind a finite approximation themselves. I can imagine e.g. Zeus & the greek pantheon, but not the omnipotent, omniscient gods of the bible.

[adamdimora]

@Cafeeine

You are correct...how could a finite mind understand the infinite? You've answered your own question, its impossible..But the fact that we as finite humans can't fully grasp an infinite God has no bearing whatsoever on whether or not God exists, nor does it diminish in any way our understanding of God where he has chosen to reveal himself...Whether by the Creation itself, the written WORD, through he profits and ultimately in Personage of Jesus Christ..Who was God in Flesh.

[jfinite]

Yikes. Quoting scripture to atheists? You may as well quote Dr. Seuss. The answer to your question as to how the universe came about is 'we don't know yet.' It's not really that hard. Oh, and did you say evolution is 'worshipping birds and fish?' Jesus Christ.

[badsaj1]

I'm sorry, but I can't find a lot of hope in the fact that your only justification for doing good things or being a good person is because a book tells you to. This is why man created religions and gods in the first place. If you want people to toe the line and be good sheep, then you need to convince them that if they stray, there are eternal punishments for bad behavior.

[darkmatteruniverse]

I would say it's very close minded to not be able to see her point of view. You have no ability to understand perspective.

I understand the concept of god 100%. I think people who believe in a god do so because of individual needs for a god.

Typically people create gods to suit their needs per social area in which they live and where raised.

You have psyched yourself out so much with God, you fail to see that those not indoctrinated have all of the moral and ethical ideas everyone else has.

[LibertyArtist]

2:28 "So the debate isn't about whether you want there to be a god or not...that's not even an argument that matters." Well maybe it should be, since evidence points to the concept of god having been created by humans. If a god did actually exist, it would still be our choice whether or not to believe in it/him. So why shouldn't we ask the question, "Either why have we created a god, or why do we choose to believe in a god that we could just as well ignore?"

[LibertyArtist]

3:16 Here's where the video really takes a turn for the worse.

[LibertyArtist]

The universe doesn't owe you a sense of hope, so if you want to try to find an inauthentic one, that's up to you. Or you can do your best and try to find one that's authentic without religion, through your relationships and what you love to do.

[LibertyArtist]

"Where would you find, meaning, hope, how would you explain moral law or love. How could you say that I'm wrong should I choose to harm you?" You don't need god or religion to explain these things. Political science and philosophy are constantly-evolving ways of dealing with issues of morality, better than looking to some ancient book, which remains constant and clearly has some problems applying morally to today's issues. I don't see what the existence of a supreme being does for morality.

[thejazzman1959]

Are you saying that you are incapable of discerning right from wrong without referring to the guidance in the bible? It is arrogant to suggest that atheists cannot do this.. The bible it is full of stuff that we know is wrong, slavery, genocide, child abuse, incest, preachers do not preach these parts, they choose the 'good bits' love thy neighbor etc, so how do they know which bits are good or bad? the bible obviously does not tell them! We use our own judgement.

[rodolfoi2000]

I see a problem when you try to answer questions with where did we come from, where are we going (do we need to be going anywhere?), etc. by using a god for the black filler. That is just too simplistic and not based on reason.

I personally don't want a god, and if there is one I would fight it with all I have. The thought of a god existing makes me sick.