Blackhawk Down

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A Blackhawk rescue helicopter need help itself after crashing on Mt. Hood in Oregon.

Category:

News & Politics

Tags:

• Mt.
• Hood
• Blackhack
• Helicopter
• Crash
• Rescue
• Oregon

[snowcdh]

You need some corrections

1) It was actually on the Hogsback

2) The snow was soft that day, and yes, the crew members were pushed into the snow when the helicopter rolled over them, saving their lives.

I doubt you've boarded or skied it many times if you don't even know the location. You "watched it live" probably on tv, I watched it live as a rescuer on scene.

[dothathingilike]

Goddamn. Saw this shit on "Critical Situation" on the Discovery Channel or whatever. Crazy shit. Thank God everyone was okay.

[zaraf822]

I was just trying to clear up the air force-army, pave-black debacle. Good to see a pro in here. Are you a crew chief or FE for paves?? Where are you stationed?

[MUSTANG408W]

@zaraf822 You're half correct. The Pave used to be an Army UH-60L before the were procured from the Army and then modified. The are the same helicopter. They aren't "souped up." In fact they are heavier with the internal 185gallon tanks, refueling system, and a crapload of additional communications equipment. I work on Paves.

[MUSTANG408W]

@escobar12levi Many Army UH-60L models have the same folding stabilator as the Pave Hawk. The Army's 160th SOAR unit has the only Black Hawks with refueling probes, so, in that they still retain the name.

[VigilanteSEVEN]

I just found out that this same aircraft, after crashing and rolling down a mountain with the crew alive and uninjured, was shot down in Afghanistan a year and a half ago, killing five of the seven crew aboard.

[LupusAries]

@MUSTANG408W That's exaclty what I meant. Helicopters are pretty durable. I was more talking about those always overdramatic TV commentators. I hope the crew was not to badly injured.

[MUSTANG408W]

@LupusAries The tip caps on the ends of the rotors are designed to be allowed to break off letting the rest of the blade maintain downforce. Those blades didn't fly apart on their own. They struck the ground (the side of the mountain) which caused them to break off entirely. These helicopters are designed with survivability in mind. That helicopter was rebuilt after this crash on Mt. Hood. It later was shot down in Afghanistan summer of 2010.

[MUSTANG408W]

@donttreadonme388 while you are correct, I know one of the crew chiefs that worked on that particular helicopter. It went up with full fuel tanks making it too heavy. The engines were not H.I.T. checked and were not making the power needed at that altitude and temperatures. This event aside, this is aircraft A6201 which was rebuilt after the Hood crash, but later shot down and destroyed in Afghanistan summer of '10.

[uh60l]

You can't count on tv news crews to get it right. Sorry if this has already been pointed out but, that is not a Blackhawk, it's an Air Force Reserve Pavehawk.

The other four helicopters that were up there that day were Blackhawks from the Oregon ARMY National Guard. They did all the rescuing that day.

[LupusAries]

It flew apart? The rotors flew apart, the fuselage seems to be mostly intact.

[davetherave7]

The altitude was the real reason for the crash as lift capabilities was reduced dramatically. The helcopter was not configured to operate, let alone, hover, in this thin air enviroment. The crew were ordered not to attempt a rescue due to these perameters and await a mountain rescue heli. Ignoring the orders, the thin atmosphere, plus, attempting low level flight corrections, immediately caused the blades to strike the ground. Good intentions maybe - but still Pilot error.