Coalition of the Willing (uncut)

Michael Moore's montage of the Coalition of the Willing would have you believe the alliance was made up of Moroccan monkeys, Dutch potheads, and Romanian vampires.

In truth, the coalition was made up of 49 countries.

Someone could've equally made a documentary of the allies in World War 2 by showing a montage of Cuba, Luxembourg, and Nepal as being members of the Allies without mentioning the rest.

In truth, the Coalition of the Willing had more members than the Allies did at the beginning of WW2, and had almost as much as the Allies by the end of WW2.

This doesn't prove the war right, and I have my opinions on the matter, but this video is meant to illustrate one of Michael Moore's unethical methods of misleading people through suggestion.

Here is a list of coalition members:

http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2003/03/20030327-10....

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News & Politics

Tags:

• coalition of the willing
• usa
• george w. bush
• iraq
• iraq war
• michael moore
• fahrenheit 9\11

[EmpirealDemocracy]

I have an idea. What if the next time we invade an idependent nation, we don't call it liberation?! :) I mean, have any of you heard of Caesar's liberation of Gaul, Cortez's (fuck him) liberation of Mexico or Hitler's attempted liberation of Russia?

[Re5Publica]

@90MaPa We're there for both. That's the intention. Whether democratizing Afghanistan is achievable or not is a different question. George W. Bush strongly believed in peace through democratization, as he said in his own words, democracies don't wage war against eachother. It's not purely altruistic, he believed a democratic middle-east was beneficial to U.S. national security. But, it's obviously mutually beneficial.

[90MaPa]

@Re5Publica You are the leading power, you had the moral and political strength to really change the world but you have maintained the attitude of compromise and subterfuge, all things typical of the Cold War . I respect 9 / 11 victims and for this I hope that lesson every day that there is enough , just because those victims did not die in vain

[90MaPa]

@Re5Publica the thing that annoys me is that ur governemnt has masked a private war into a war in which everyone had to be involved, and it made​fun of making you believe your people to fight with the support of the world .

[90MaPa]

@Re5Publica I just wanted to emphasize that we should not delude ourselves, we did not go there to bring democracy, we went there to get bin Laden .

[Re5Publica]

@90MaPa I don't understand what that has to do with our original discussion, which has gone totally off-track, and now you're engaging in moral equivalancies between the Taliban and the Northern Alliance. Were America and allied troops totally innocent of committing atrocities during the Second World War? If they weren't, did it make the war not worth fighting? Moral equivalencies seem to be the refuge of desperate anti-war campaigners, who always ignore the asymmetries.

[90MaPa]

@Re5Publica if you want to look for evidence about the Karzai family, then search news about Ahmad Wali Karzai, Ahmed and Rashid Popal.

Regard to the "good" mujahideen search something about the Dasht-e-Leili massacre .

all certified by U.S. authorities and International Organizations

[90MaPa]

wrong , they supported talibans during the civil war that followed the downfall of Najibullah , last pro-soviet president . . Talibans were equipped with American weapons, Saudi Arabian money , and trained by the Pakistanis , within 1 year they won a war that went on for 6 years .Massoud was the leader of the major party but he failed to bring peace between the opposing tribes and to counter the interests of the warlords

now instead talibans we have again warlords : pr. Karzai is one of them

[Re5Publica]

@90MaPa The US never supported the Taliban. It's important 2 note that former members of the mujahideen r fighting Taliban today. Possibly the most famous afghan mujahid was Ahmed Shah Massoud, leader of the Northern Alliance (U.S. allies & bitter rivals of the Taliban), who was assassinated by al-Qaeda 2 days before 9\11.

The vast majority of islamist groups today existed before 9\11. Al-Qaeda's an amalgamation of various regional jihadist groups who swear 2 uphold Bin Laden's 1998 fatwa.

[90MaPa]

@Re5Publica who secretly support the mujahidin during Soviet occupation and especially Talibans after the end of the war ? . It's a classic case of the snake eating its tail . 9/11 events are just the tip of the iceberg .

3 -Al-Qaeda is in disarray, but meanwhile dozens of fundamentalist movements were born , inspired by binLaden's work .

to use a metaphor, we are still suffering the burst of the bomb, we still haven't understood what we have against , what we have indirectly triggered