Shakespeare Authorship Controversy
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@commonberus1 Quite right. Both the pseudonym theory and the front-man theory raise far, far more doubt in me of Oxenford's authorship than all the supposed "holes" in Shakespeare's history raise about his authorship (they aren't even holes when looked at with some contextual knowledge.
If I were secretly writing screenplays, say, 'Pirates of the Carribean', and I needed to keep it secret (for decades), I wouldn't choose Johnny Depp as my pseudonym.
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@edboswell 58 known spellings of the family name around Stratford. 2 of them are spelled Shakespeare... His birth certificate says Shaxper or Shagspur..... Virtually all spelled with shack not Shake as dictating soft "A".
My statistics count 61 (non London) spellings of his name that begin Shake or Shacke as with play write. Also have you considered the influence of abreviation on spelling? Some hand written notes list the writer with spellings that miss the first e at least.
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here are some clues: William the Shepard was the symbolic poet, hence "William". Athena , goddess of drama, held a spear. So the pen name equates to: Poet Dramatist. 2. In 1609, Sonnets are published and quickly suppressed. (only 15 copies exist) with no dedication from the "ever-living poet". Poems talk about a man of high rank, so high he "held the canopy for the Queen", he is over 40, lame, with a disgraced name, but says his work will outlive monuments" Only DeVere fits this profile
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@commonberus1 58 known spellings of the family name around Stratford. 2 of them are spelled Shakespeare... His birth certificate says Shaxper or Shagspur..... Virtually all spelled with shack not Shake as dictating soft "A". First came the epic poems, then the plays, then the use of his name by the man from Stratford. I admire your ability to doubt. I also like your level of civility. Spelling is not the crux of the case. Just another clue.
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@edboswell Do you mean to say the man from Strattford had a different name from the play write? Sorry I cannot buy it. In an age of unfixed spellings unsuprisingly the man from Stratford had many spellings for his name, most of them more like Shakespeare or Shakespere then Shagsper.
I am affraid you have not answered my question. If the Earl of Oxford wanted to hide his authorship he would have used a simple pseudonym not the name of one of the actors of 'his' plays.
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@commonberus1 Did you know that during the exact time frame of the 1st folio, the Prince of Wales was leaning towards marrying a Spanish princess, putting the fear of God into all the anti-catholic Lords? De Vere's family would have been in deep trouble had England swing back to the church in Rome. Shakespeare's play are anti-catholic, and served the family well by being published at that point in time. Just as Hamlet came out AFTER Burghley died, as he was parodied as Polonius.
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@edboswell Malone, in his exhaustive Varorium 1821 Edition of the Shakespeare Canon, mentions that the myth of Shakespeare getting his start by holding horses is simply that. No one rode to the theatres, they walked. It's all BS, the stories about Will Shaksper. Why did deVere/Oxford's relatives receive the dedication in the 1st folio? Did you know the 2 actors who claimed to have provided the blotless manuscripts were employees of de Vere's relatives?
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@edboswell It is good idea to find facts by orthodox scholars on this subject, people w/o an agenda. Halliwell-Philips, in mid-19th c described Stratford as being a dirty provincial town with filth in their ditches that reeked to high heaven. Recent research has discovered many more instances of using pen-names than thought to be. Stratfordians hate Oxford with a vengenence, pounching on his shames and checkered name, which actually buttresses the case. Read sonnets 109 110 and 121.
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@commonberus1 Nothing was ever said, not a single sentence, linking the dramatist/poet with the man from Stratford. Anything mentioned was about the poet/author, but nothing like "Stratford's gifted poet"... no link between Stratford and the writer. In fact. Ben Jonson parodies the man from Stratford man as a braggart, who claimed to be the author, when the writers knew it to be B.S. Shaksper or Shagsper.... written out with soft A like in Shack not Shake. So he copped a pen-name.
I like the background music; where did you get it from?
legacies17 2 years ago
i made it on garageband, we were not allowed to use other music
WatUpSammy666 2 years ago