Gilad Atzmon Meets Rabbi Michael Lerner and Friends

While in San Francisco I met Rabbi Michael Lerner and a few members of his liberal congregation (9.5.2011). We spent more than three hours together. I presented my thoughts and ideas and answered many questions. This gathering reaffirmed my belief that a meaningful shift within the Jewish discourse can only be achieved through a spiritual transformation rather than through lame Jewish secular political activism.

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[LutherQBlissett]

3:23 "Ashkenazi ... who are largely Khazarians": Ashkenaz is an area in Germany; Khazars were a Turkic people who converted to Judaism in early medieval period. There is no genetic or academic to support this theory

7:08 "they call themselves Sepharadi ... the Arab Jews": Sepahard Jews are Jews originating from Iberian peninsula (Portuguese & Spanish Jews) who fled reconquista to Morocco (and to Syria) - they are not 'Arab (Mizrahi) Jews. Arab(ic speaking) Jews are Yemeni, Iraqi, Syrian, etc.

[lynchie3000]

@LutherQBlissett

Non-partisan academic has well documented the fact the Khazarian monarchy converted to Pharisaism, the only debate is whether their subject followed suit. But they can't have been a very good Pharisees if they allowed their subject to continue with their idolatry.

[NowLearnAboutIslam]

Gilad Atzmon is such a sad, tragic man. So sad.

His people have made the desert bloom and made a successful advanced country, with a free press, modern healthcare for all of its citizens, education for all, Arab Bedouin soldiers even serve in its military, it has Arab members of parliament and it has free elections with votes for all. And Atzmon seethes against them and says nothing about the horrors of Hamas and the teaching of hate and murder to children on Palestinian official TV stations.

[maurizius27]

is Mr. Atzmon a communist ?

[PDM1967]

Interesting. @ 1:19 he mocks Israelis/Jews who tell Palestinans to be "secular and democratic". Any reason Israelis should listen to those who insist that they choose "democracy" (ie the false choice of either giving the so called "Palestinans" citzenship or abandoning Israeli terrirotiy or becoming an "apartheid state"). How about another choice: Palestinans can stay where they are as non-voting residents or they can move back to Jordan and Iraq from whence they came.

[WinkyMaeve]

@sethbarron LOL.

"disproved" please provide me a link to this.

Israel government sponsored research is not proof of anything.

the only non Israeli non Muslim group that has done testing has showed European/Turkic dna up to as high as 70% in Ashkenazi "Jews" which would disqualify them from the whole Israelite thing.

[Blissentia]

@LutherQBlissett

No, the alternative hypothesis (including so-called "genetic evidence") has been debunked. See Shlomo Sand's text "The invention of the jewish people"

[LutherQBlissett]

The racial myth that Ashkenazi = Khazarian, which Atzmon repeats here has been thoroughly debunked.

[DrippingwithIrony]

Reading some of these comments it's clear enough that many have failed the first and most basic requirement of participating and understanding other peoples. At Atzmon states, you must learn to listen. So listen! Then if you wish to criticize Atzmon, PLEASE do it on the basis of what was stated (i.e., first listen to what is stated) and then respond. All else reveals a shallowness of understanding.