CSU, Chico Police Demand ID for No Reason

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September 10, 2008

Police demand ID for no reason. Take a look at the article: http://media.www.theorion.c... Around 2 a.m. Aug. 28, he sat in his parked car on the corner of West Second Street and Normal Avenue us...

Police demand ID for no reason. Take a look at the article:
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Around 2 a.m. Aug. 28, he sat in his parked car on the corner of West Second Street and Normal Avenue using wireless Internet to search for a hotel, he said. The red and blue lights from the flashing police siren caught his eye immediately. Then Officer Michael Swithenbank appeared by his window.
When asked by Swithenbank to show his driver's license, Jones questioned why he should show identification if he hadn't done anything illegal, he said. Because he thinks he has "the right not to show papers," he refused to give the officer his driver's license.

"I'm not the kind of guy who is always paranoid about the police - they are there to protect us, and I respect that," Jones said. "But they are also there to protect our Constitutional rights."

In the dispatch recording of the incident Swithenbank, who was on DUI patrol that night, is heard saying: "Be advised - he's a Constitutionalist."

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A little more than 20 minutes into the incident Jones clicked on a pocket-sized video camera he had in his care...Lt. Matt Hansen of the University Police Department said that Swithenbank acted within the boundaries of the law, but "perhaps he could have done a better job explaining the situation."

"Consider your source. You're aware (Jones is) a political activist, and he informed us he was a Constitutionalist," Hansen said. "Constitutionalists have an ax to grind with government, and they see police as an extension of government in which they don't recognize their authority, because they think their authority is the Constitution."

Jones said a prior experience with police framed the way he handled this situation. After being pulled over in the small town of Ash Grove, an officer insisted on searching his car for drugs. There weren't any because Jones doesn't use drugs.

"After that experience I vowed not to give in to violations of privacy by the police -especially if the police can provide no rational reason for their demands," he said.

Jones isn't letting one incident with the police ruin his plans for Chico, he said.

"The sense of community here in Chico is amazing," he said. "At the farmers' market, I noticed right away that Ron Paul has a strong following here in the community and just by talking to folks enjoying the market, I got four people signed up to join Chico State's Young Americans for Liberty group."

This election and particularly the campaign of Ron Paul motivated him to become politically active, Jones said. Since graduating with a degree in music from Indiana University, Jones has held numerous odd jobs.

"Last year, I never thought I'd be doing anything like this job," he said. "I'm a musician who studied piano and harpsichord at Indiana University, and I have my own experimental band."

Jones is returning to Chico Thursday to man a table and recruit students who support the philosophy of limited government.

"Anyone who is interested in defending the constitution should talk to me," Jones said. "I'll see what kind of help I can provide."

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mi6QBranch (6 days ago) Show Hide

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This idiot is willing to give his SS # but won't show the proper ID for operating a motor vehicle? Dude is a douche.
It's one thing if he was just out walking.

Something people need to understand is operating a motor vehicle is NOT a right. It's a privilidge.

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"Consider your source. You're aware (Jones is) a political activist, and he informed us he was a Constitutionalist," Hansen said. "Constitutionalists have an ax to grind with government, and they see police as an extension of government in which they don't recognize their authority, because they think their authority is the Constitution."

WRONG. IDIOT. THE CONSTITUTION IS THE SOVEREIGN LAW OF THE LAND. ALSO YES, WE DO HAVE AN AX TO GRIND AND WE'RE ABOUT TO GRIND IT ALL OVER YOUR STUPID FACE.

chicoquadcore (1 week ago) Show Hide

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As you start driving while on the phone still lol

I am in Chico as well

Pafoofnik1 (1 month ago) Show Hide

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I think we agree on the basic premise: Officers cannot demand a valid driver's license just because they want to.

crackahcrackah (1 month ago) Show Hide

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Absolutely. I was just extending things further because most people think they actually NEED to have a license, license plates, and are REQUIRED to register, which just ain't the case. But thieving agencies won't tell you that it's voluntary to register a passenger vehicle, and of course if you do then you are subject to the contractual obligations that you sign on to in the process...

DavidForthoffer (1 month ago) Show Hide

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Well, officers CAN demand a valid driver's license just because they want to.

You are not breaking the law by refusing to show them your driver's license, unless you are operating your vehicle and they have a legitimate reason to detain you (such as at a legal checkpoint, or if they have a reasonable and articulable suspicion you are involved in criminal activity).

Pafoofnik1 (1 month ago) Show Hide

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Good point. I think I could make a simple change to my statement to get it to work right:

A person does not have to produce a valid drivers' license to a law enforcement officer just because he asks for it. The officer must first have a legitimate reason or reasonable suspicion.

crackahcrackah (1 month ago) Show Hide

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People like you are so fucking stupid it hurts. You can't spell. You worship people who claim authority over you. You're a fucking retarded slave. Why don't you do the rest of us a favor slave: shut the fuck up and spare the rest of us from having to waste our life's time on you.

crackahcrackah (1 month ago) Show Hide

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in laymen's terms you're correct. however, faggot lawyers go and redefine words and the term "drive" has been redefined to mean something other than simply using your passenger vehicle to travel. That's the problem with law. Hang the fucking lawyers and things will smooth over in this land. Besides, think about this guys: If we had a war to kick the brits out why do people who "practice" law require a BRITISH ACCREDITED REGISTRY membership? Because they are subverting the laws of this land...

crackahcrackah (1 month ago) Show Hide

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Sure to drive but not to use a passenger vehicle to get from point a to b. drive is a legal term which only applies to registered vehicles. go look it up in the vehicle code rather than sounding like a retarded parrot.

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