Xing Yi Quan - Pi Quan

Slightly mellow version of the Five Elements - Pi Quan.

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• Xing Yi Quan
• Pi Quan

[TakgeyonBlackbelt]

@silatk No videos yet. One of the things on the list is a handheld recorder but as a father of two toddlers I have to set my priorities accordingly. I am currently writing a book on the subject that I am going to publish on lulu. It will probably be done by the end of the month. I am probably going to get a lot of grief from xingyi guys across the board because I am going to step on some toes and lash out at a few "holy cows".

[TakgeyonBlackbelt]

@weeg the impression that XYQ is a softball martial art and the sad fact is that in most cases these days that's a pretty much an accurate assessment of the skills they are observing.

[TakgeyonBlackbelt]

@weeg Just because I found a niche in tiger style doesn't mean one of my students won't find theirs in another aspect of the style and if I began teaching them from my own narrow perspective then I would be guilty of watering it down so to speak. I guess I just get annoyed at the fact that nearly every video demo I see basically shows the same thing. Every time a guy shows an attack move it's always the same "push the guy backwards" and that in my opinion gives too many people

[TakgeyonBlackbelt]

@weegbI'll be honest with you, I don't like the 5 elements. I have developed a whole series of fighting forms and techiques from tiger style as well as two man and linking forms and I practice those pretty much exclusively. they work for me and I have taken down Muay Thai and BJJ guys with them (because I also train regularly at an MMA school I am currently traing to be a Muay Thai instructor). But I still teach my personal students all the 5 elements and such.

[TakgeyonBlackbelt]

@weegb I think that most XYQ in it's modern context has been shunted by the limited perspective of it's practitioners. I meet guys all the time that say their XYQ has a couple of kicks and that's it. My Dai/Shanxi style has a formidable amount of kicks from low, medium and high angles and they are used frequently in the combat techniques. Many of the people I have met don't really seem to be interested in hand to hand combat at all.

[TakgeyonBlackbelt]

The problem with XYQ specifically in the west but also in China nowadays is that it seems to be suffering the same fate as other martial arts that were once very effective but have been watered down to the point they no longer can really be called by that name (Tae Kwon Do, Tai Ji). XYQ seems to have evolved into a "health" practice and among modern practitioners has lost most of it's martial core.

[TakgeyonBlackbelt]

they've got nothing. About the penetrating blows. Yes there are strikes that disperse (as you put it) the force in the body but that is just one kind of striking force available. XYQ practs can strike like a cracking whipp or move the target as a professional boxer would it's up to them as well as some other manifestations that I wont go into at this time.

[TakgeyonBlackbelt]

@weegb I as well appreciate the lengthy reply. Please forgive me in assuming anything about your training and experience. But realize that your vidoes are one of hundreds circulating on youtube showing the exacut same thing. Perhaps you can manifest internal power but from the subtlety of your form I couldn't detect it just as you couldn't detect it if I were doing the same. I meet guys all the time who go on about this and that and what they know but when it comes time to deliver a strike

[weegb]

@TakgeyonBlackbelt OK last one - I didn't actually believe you were being hostile, I was just curious on your interpretations. As I said in my first reply I am always happy to discuss these points as I know this can increase one's knowledge and awareness. :o)

[weegb]

@TakgeyonBlackbelt With regards to being a westerner and not enjoying standing in one position for any length of time that's a bit of a sweeping generalization. I know plenty of students from all over the world studying xing yi and yi quan in Beijing who are happy to put in the time. When I began studying my teacher would leave me in santi for 15-20 minutes walk back, adjust an elbow or finger and then leave for another 20 minutes. She did not progress my studies until she knew I was ready.