The Last of the Mohicans [1080p] - (Battle Scene) Magua and His Huron War Party Ambushes the British
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@TheDarkwoodster Bayonets were almost useless in melee combat against troops armed with dedicated melee weapons. Rifles and muskets were more often used as clubs in a melee.
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These soldiers were mostly tough men to first be sent to America or be in the army, people in the 18th century were most likely more hardy than a modern American film's interpretation. Their Bayonets would be drawn and some of these men were veterans and the availability of rifles was limited, so it is unlikely these Indians would be that successful.
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@killer3000ad Well first your first statement we are saving the same thing and on the same page. Yes he was aiming for Chingachgook, but your statement regarding Magua makes no sense. At this point, Hawkeye would have no knowledge of Magua being a traitor. They showed up after the fight was started and didn't see Magua start theb attack on the British. I still stand by my statement that Duncan walked them into an ambush. Not our of ignorance but out of use of the European tactics of the day.
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@deanernet No no, he meant in case Duncan's marksmanship was better than his ability to tell friend from foe. Also Duncan didn't march his men into ambush, he was led into an ambush by what he thought was an allied native Scout, Magua.
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@LostBoyRebel he was aiming for Chingachgook
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@LostBoyRebel I took it as he was aiming at Chingachgook based on Hawkeyes statement "In case your aim is better than your judgement", implying that he might be a good shot but sure as hell made a bad choice in marching his troops in the manner he was into an ambush.
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1080p way to go
yea, they got owned pretty badly
to much routine to go true when starting a battle...
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@TheDarkwoodster I agree...or patrols/pickets deployed to protect the flanks of an entire company on the march. This makes them look completely unprofessional...which they were not in the course of actual history but, it does make the heroes of this story look REALLY good when they arrive and clean up Magua's confederates.
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@TOCR815 You mean like the rangers or kentucky riflemen or the light riflemen that Washington would reluctantly employ or that the Crown would employ about 20 years after this conflict? The principle reason for this being a slaughter is terrain and not much else. The rest of it is Hollywood fantasy....I mean really? A raiding party of 20 or 25 took out an entire infantry company of the line? Real world...not likely, but here it makes Uncas and company look really bad-ass.
@TheDarkwoodster Even so they wouldn't have had a snowball chance in hell of making it out of that alive. You just can't beat or counter guerilla warfare in the middle of the forest on the native's turf.
TOCR815 2 months ago 10
the british soldiers in reality would have had there bayonets fixed on their muskets and they would have been harder to defeat than this scene portrays hollywood always makes other countrys armed forces seem retarded, the bayonet in trained hands is a deadly weapon.
TheDarkwoodster 4 months ago 8