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WOTMR- God's imminence vs. transcendence applied to 'worship' songs of today's evangelicalism

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Uploaded by on Mar 19, 2008

*****UPDATE******
Previously I had this video titled "Do you hate old hymns because you're unregenerate?"
---I just want to apologize and admit that I was using a logical fallacy with this title...known as a loaded question. I was putting people on the defense of their salvation based on what kind of music they listened to. This was causing a misconception of my beliefs: I would never say that someone wasn't saved just because they listened to x, y, or z music. That's extra-biblical. My reason for posting this video was simply to ask the question of why someone would say that a theologically sound song was 'dead'. I wanted to point out that it could be that someone was basing their song preference on fleshly things and not spiritual things...and that something like that should be examined. I hope this makes sense. I apologize for my error. I wanted to make this clear. Personally, I think there is something to be said for examining the music we label as worship...and to make sure that the lyrics are not vague and wishy washy like a lot of contemporary songs today. However, there are also some old hymns out there that are also not biblically sound either...and just because they are 'hymns' doesn't mean they are God-glorifying. Todd does bring up good points in this video, though, and I do think that SOMEONE needs to be asking this question "Is the music you are listening to showing a reverence for God?" And that is why I like this video...because Friel is simply putting it out there.

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  • I personally love both hymns and CCM, but I'd just add a bit of caution; I know many unregenerate people who just LOVE traditional hymns and know them better than I do!

  • I got saved in March, 1987. I was 33 years old and very into my secular music before I got saved. THE DAY AFTER I got saved, I knew I wanted something else from music. A friend told me about Christian music. I was so shocked to find this Christian music that I became a radio announcer and promoted Christian rock for 10 years. After a time, I began to notice that this music was not what I wanted anymore. It took years, but today, I can honestly say that I prefer the old hymns and I can worship.

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  • love the hymns- exalt both imminence and transcendence: fled from CCM and never returning

  • see how relevant Go aw aw aw aw awd is! 1 Peter 5:7 Rexella! Todd Van Impe/Jack Van Friel.

  • @naturalsystah There are a couple of hymns that extol imminence just as well as CCM.

  • most people didn't get the right understanding of Jesus as the Son of God. It is not like God got married or something like physical. No! It is like having a person or part of Himself. That the relationship between Jesus and God is like a Son and a Father. Part of God was taken to be sacrificed to redeem us from our sin. The sacrifice of animals are no more effective to convict us with any degree of sin. Only by the God's own blood could redeem us.

  • Islam: true religion....Qur'an....>Words of Allah(God).......Issa (Jesus) prophet of God not son of god.....God bogotted none nor was he boggoten so pple open ur eyes to the truth.........

  • ahahahhahahhahahahbahbhhah LOVE Todd <3 hahahaahh WOMTR FTW

  • I know exactly what you mean! I went from Meatloaf and Alice Cooper to hymns the instant I was saved, and my poor bookcase is getting loaded down with all the hymnals I can get.

  • that would be "immanence"...the quality of infinitely personal presence. The Christian mystics wrote of it often, and were usually persecuted for permutating any Christian idea beyond scripture or the RC church.

  • i didn't mind the old title. i hated hymns before i got saved but now i love them.

  • You do realize that, at some point in its history, every style of music was the world's music.

    And, really, you should stop generalizing. Just because some Christian rock/rap is pointless doesn't make it all so.

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