Penn & Teller: Dalai Lama and Tibet

Mainstream media seems to be only pushing the story about an oppressed Tibet and referring to the Dalai Lama as a saint.
This is a compilation of clips from Penn & Teller Bullshit! Holier Than Thou speaking about Tibet and the Dalai Lama.

The hole episode can be watched here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPsQCu...

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[VIPshow11]

Tibetans also have a prime minester to. Check online

[Lucy Wright]

Have Penn and Teller ever been on TV in China? Man, these guys would be big stars.

[aeon00000000]

For the record, I agree with you against Tibetan "Independence". Tibetans are more free and have better lives under the Chinese.

You didn't have to mention politics: "Nobody in China can tell me...what kind of people can you talk to." This is simply not true.

Also, YouTube, Wikipedia, and others are restricted. Many books too.

I love China; all I'm pointing out is that you are misrepresenting things a little. To be honest, I would not like to live under the CCP NOR under the Dalai Lama. :P

[tengma8]

I did not say anything about politic in my commit did I?

plus, criticizing Dalai Lama can also lead you to trouble under Dalai Lama's rule, so supporting Tibet independent will not fix the promble.

[aeon00000000]

Not terribly true. I lived in China and there are good things, but there are lots of bad things too. Criticizing China and the Communist Party can lead to trouble. Associating with people who do those things can lead to trouble as well.

[tengma8]

look: nobody in China can tell me what gods can I worship, or who do you live with, or what kind of people can you talk to and who you cannot. or what store you can buy things from,or you should beat up a people of certain religion, like what Dalai Lama did to his people.

I am not trying to defeat everything that China did, but want to live under Dalai Lama is just insane.

[Ryan Jones]

And yet, China, one of the most oppressed countries in the entire world, does worse on a daily basis, and you're defending it..

Who's the zealot now?

[tengma8]

First of all, it is Dalai Lama who encouraged those people to abuse others.

Second point: I will not be bother about what Dalai lama did if he is not trying to claim control over 25% of the area of China, including the town that my grandfather came from.

We don't want to live under a regime like that, nor anyone who is not a zealot religious follower of Dalai Lama.

[Ryan Jones]

Point taken, but the Dalai Lama isn't abusing these people. Other people are abusing these people.

I don't like the Dalai Lama very much, but banning a practice in a monastery is their business, not our's. It's their religion, not our's. Unless we can apply the same standards to all religions, you shouldn't bother with this shit.

[tengma8]

this is how Dalai Lama crack down his own people after 1959, in 1990s:

watch?v=CdTnEnBsneM

For how bad is tibet before 1951, just search "Tibet before 1951", you can found many.

[tengma8]

yes he renounced his political position, but do you know that religious leader (the Lamas) is more important than the president in Dalai Lama's regime?

Dalai lama's regime is a theocracy, Dalai Lama's power does not come from his position of president but from his position of the Dalai Lama.

All his "give up political power" is totally not true. He still give political and social "advise" as a religious leader, and there had never been a single vote against his "advise" in his congress.

[Atheer Al]

so his holiness is not that holy after all..

am i surprised?

well the rule states if you hear about a hero.. always ask: is that true??!

more often than not the answer is: No..

same goes for guivara, theresa, hussain, ali, and even saddam..