Penn & Teller: Dalai Lama and Tibet

Mainstream media seems to be only pushing the story about an oppressed Tibet and referring to the Dalai Lama as a saint.
This is a compilation of clips from Penn & Teller Bullshit! Holier Than Thou speaking about Tibet and the Dalai Lama.

The hole episode can be watched here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPsQCutg2Fw&feature=related

Category:

News & Politics

Tags:

• China
• Tibet
• Olympic
• Chinese
• Torch
• Bullshit
• Dahlai
• Lama
• Communism
• Feudalism
• Theocracy

[Fablefiend]

@TheTerrorUforgot Who cares what a random youtube commentar says??

[magneto44]

Dalai Lama = fraud

[buciorjakub]

not only that but it was not completely the dalai lamas fault for the atrocities in tibet at the time, he was only a boy and did not have a lot of power at the time, he did not gain the throne until he was 16 and by then he was at war with china so its not as if there was the time to make reforms, however there were some reforms, but was tibet still a terrible place for surfs at the time yes, but it was and its not like communism made their lives better

[buciorjakub]

many tibetans are aware of how bad tibet was before the 50s however many of them want a tibet that is politically and culturally autonomous from china so that they could practice their beliefs freely but DO NOT want the old feudal way of life, neither does the dalai lama want the old feudal system back, what the tibetan people want is reform, the dalai lama himself has also debated on weather or not the dalai lama linage should continue or if he should be the last dalai lama

[CedarArchive]

Penn and Teller are not experts & with out-dated claims. This deserves an informed response, which is not practical or appropriate in the form of a 300 character comment.

Pen & Teller's claims fall in three categories: 1. Asserting Pre-1950 Tibet as a Theocratic Serfdom, 2.Assertions about the Dalai Lama, 3. Asserting that Tibet would return to Theocracy.

Claim 1) Search Wikipedia, "Serfdom in Tibet Controversy" for info.

Claim 3) Simply incorrect in 2012, HHDL removed his own political role.

[RishiRamraj]

Apart from better sanitation and medicine and education and irrigation and public health and roads and a freshwater system and baths and public order... what have the Romans done for us?

[Smokeheefer]

@oaim50 you're going to stick your fingers in your ears and yell really loud?

[steyrssgfly]

I REALLY don't understand where all these dummies are coming from with absolutely NO real knowledge on the subject besides the crap they get fed by the media corporations.

F*ck the Dalai Lama and his backward feudal sh*t, he was basically a friggin SLAVE DRIVER phony, don't you understand?!

Take some time and read some ACTUAL history books, look at China's history AND your own hypocritical country history and how you've oppressed YOUR own (black) peoples. (I'm looking at you, USA).

[MadBasstid]

@squamish4244 agreed. I like Penn, and he is the first to admit that he is an asshole and that he might be wrong about shit. While some might seem to believe so, they are no experts and make no such claims, except when it comes to magic; this why they interview multiple experts on each subject. What they present is an opinion based on research they have conducted. you are free to examine the evidence yourself. This is primarily a comedy show, side of boobs & decent journalism

[squamish4244]

@oaim50 I tried posting a counter argument on another Penn & Teller video and was censored by the account holder!  Apparently you are not allowed to challenge their views.

[squamish4244]

It's true, Tibet was far from a utopia. Yet in the 1950's, when the Chinese occupied Tibet, the Dalai Lama became interested in socialist ideas of reforming Tibet's feudal society and redistributing the wealth of the landowners. But the Chinese would have none of it, as they were more interested in total control, and the Dalai Lama had to flee in 1959 when the Chinese began murdering the Tibetans. Penn & Teller don't have time for such a nuanced viewpoint.

[squamish4244]

@MadBasstid A lot of people treat Penn & Teller like revered authorities on the subjects they speak about - which they are not - and Penn sometimes comes across as an egotistical asshole.