OctRev - JB 2/3 - What does USSR mean to my generation?

Jot Brar, Member of the CPGB-ML speaks of the relevance of October to the younger generations in the heartlands of British Imperialism.

Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GgbG4x1cSY
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXR1K_RvkhI
Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mS7pcHreUcU

Category:

News & Politics

Tags:

• October
• Revolution
• Communism
• CPGB-ML
• Joti
• Brar
• War
• Capitalism
• Socialism
• USSR
• Thatcher

[shananagans5]

After the Soviet Union failed my friends mother came to the US. She was amazed with a simple grocery store. She was amazed at how nice our home was. (we were poor college students) She was amazed how even poor people could get a car. She was amazed at everything we had and at how easy life was. This made me realize how great capitalism is. It's not perfect but it a heck of alot better than communism.

[ProletarianCPGBML]

@shananagans5 Look harder! US and UK have raised living standards by impoverishing the vast majority worldwide - third world represents most people's experience of 'capitalism'. And it's far worse than your life of a 'poor' college student. US has been at constant war with the world to maintain its privilage, Killing 50 million since WW2 in direct military ops against nation after nation... 2 billion people live on $2/day; 1 billion on $1/day. 1bn have no access to water. THis is capitalism!

[vivascargill]

ms brar--if you want to be a communist join slp--look during the 59'a I was briefly a member of an organization in the US that talked and talked and did nothing, Then I but changed and joined SNCC--probablty with few "communists: but with people who DID things often at risk and deat. I have bo quarell with your speech (save china) but SLP

[ProletarianCPGBML]

@vivascargill SLP is dead. I tried my best to keep it alive. I have lamented and moved on. Its been 6 years now. Time to move on.

[762cat]

wow commies are cute they live in there own little worlds.

[ProletarianCPGBML]

Their own, cat, their own. if you're gonna condescend, please get it right - otherwise we're all a little embarrassed on your behalf.

[johnloony]

An excellent speech! The same mixture of conflicting systems of thought with which so many people - particularly of the same generation - have been struggling. Overcoming a lifetime of indoctrination by the bourgeois media is difficult (and, as I have discovered, unpopular among some) but Joti shows that it is possible.

[Stalinikos1917]

Joti, you did very well! Well done for this excellent introduction to the Soviet Union

[LightOnTheDarkness]

Here is one accomplishment during Soviet times... what you really need to do is dig deeper into the backgrounds of those individuals who were behind this. Watch youtube video: `` Holodomor (English) The Original Holocaust *Ukraine 1932 - 1933 ``

[MegaGamesbond]

you guys should do History GCSE to really understand the so called Russian socialism, Stalinism etc.

[Esoparagon]

@shananagans5 Pay no attention. The idea that capitalist countries are rich at the expense of poor countries is nonsense. The reason these poor countries are poor is because they don't have capitalism. They have no stable law. The wealth created in capitalist countries is created from nothing not taken. It's not a zero sum game. Wealth is created in free markets. It's not taken from somewhere else.

[shananagans5]

@ProletarianCPGBML So I guess its better we quit buying from 3rd world countries and take away that $2 a day.

[jumpnjza2]

@shananagans5

Living standards are a function of a country's productive forces. The industrial base of the USSR was smaller than that of the US. Unlike the US, the USSR didn't go into other countries to extract resources and employ sweatshop labour so that its citizens could purchase cheap goods. The USSR was burdened by the objective need to maintain military parity with the United States which means that resources that could have gone into consumer production had to be spent on defense.

[blackiron60]

@shananagans5 The grass is always greener on the other side. They wanted to "escape" because Western propaganda always portrayed the non-Communist world as a promised land where money grew on trees and where everything was fair and just. Needless to say many were bitterly disappointed with what they really found. Your "reality" is the reality of American propaganda. I advise you to question more.

[shananagans5]

@blackiron60 And how many are starving to death in N Korea? Why are there guards to keep people from leaving? I don't think there are hoards of people trying to sneak into the north. Why did the Berlin wall had to be built? Why do people allways seem to want to escape countries like that? Because that type of system is a miserable failure. Thats the reality.

[xCBKxScArFaCe]

How big is the CPGB in Great Britain?