Top Ten Tanks- # 1: The T-34

Despite the use of technology the T-34 manages to beat out the M1 Abrams for the number one spot!

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[LaughingGravy31]

@drughello

"kill the fucking t34. (first version didn't even had a machinegun)""

Are you fvcking crazy?

[LaughingGravy31]

@drughello

Good.

Fvck off then you ignoramus.

[drughello]

@LaughingGravy31 wikipedia not a valid source as yuri gagarin not a valid astronaut.

i have no more time to waste with you.

[drughello]

@LaughingGravy31 mbt: no other tanks in support, objective: tanks, troop support, artillery, whatever happens to be needed tiger: supported with med tanks, self propelled artillery. objective: kill the fucking t34. (first version didn't even had a machinegun)

so an mbt is a really evoluted concept, not a rush maded. overengineered. tracked 88mm gun.

[Dreachon]

@normison69

The single hatch in the eary t-34 was actually not easy to open at all due to it's size and weight, a wounded crewmember couldn't even open it.

And wrong, it was a very overall a good tank, the only problems came from having a higher centre of gravity and a higher ground pressure but it sure made up by beeing better for use in combat, those crews that fought on both the shermans and the T-34 preferred the sherman.

[normison69]

@LaughingGravy31 Wider tracks for better offroad capabilty, better cleareance and sloping armor, but they forgot things like easy maintenance, easy crew training and easy & cheap mass production. Like i said Germans drew up plans first for actually copying the T-34 almost completely but they could not because of the diesel engine and their pride plus Hitler did not allow it.

[normison69]

@LaughingGravy31 Actally Germans drew up plans for T-25 wich was almost 90% copy of the Russian T-34, their pride could not allow for copying and Hitler said no, so they made the Panther tank wich was "medium" by their standards and only implemented the sloping frontal and turret armor and wider tracks and very good mobility off-road. The Panther was diffrent tank but very much influenced by T-34. Only that Germans overcomplicated the Panther in every way like maintenance and mass production.

[normison69]

@LaughingGravy31 Only noob crews could not get out from T-34s, veterans and those who passed on the knowledge at the early models of T-34 they put their leather belts just between the hatches, so if the T-34 got hit they could jump right away from, just pushing easily the hatch to open it fast and jump out. Russians cursed the Shermans again because they had poor manouvarability in Russian terrain because of the low clearence and i said they were not 100% copies, but first they though of copying

[normison69]

@VAPOURIZE100 Only noob crews could not get out from T-34s, veterans and those who passed on the knowledge at the early models of T-34 they put their leather belts just between the hatches, so if the T-34 got hit they could jump right away from, just pushing easily the hatch to open it fast and jump out. Russians cursed the Shermans again because they had poor manouvarability in Russian terrain because of the low clearence. Yea it was more comfy but not so good as T-34 overall.