RE: Anton LaVey / Jason King

video response to King's video regarding LaVey ,Gilmore and the Church of Satan

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[jason666king]

Z, you didn't understand the "doorman" analogy for what it was. As I said, he opened the door, but couldn't walk through - that makes him a doorman. What door? That of Satan as metaphysical reality (watch my Lord of Midnight video) rather than simply a team mascot. LaVey was overly reactionary (q.v. his focus on "indulgence") when he could've been truly proactive.

[satanicinternational]

cool JK I will go dig up lord of midnight

[satanicinternational]

JK...Now is Lavey really an Atheist ?? I think not..He talks of Satan an unknown Dark force that influences the world? I have a feeling LaVey believed in a Master,but watered down his works to make them more presentable to the masses

[niza310]

Well in the beginning CoS was a "secret collage" an occult college with various studies and courses. Even now Steve Flowers teaches philology @ UTexas. He was ex CoS and ToS. ToS mind You was born from infighting amongst the Cos college on Deists Who were not looking for a Deity but found One and Atheist Satanists. Don't let time bury these strange truths.

[satanicinternational]

indeed

[Lylyth480]

Organized Religion is still Organized Religion. This has been Humanity's biggest Plague since it began long ago. World's Oldest Profession before Prostitution that came from Religion in Fact.

[satanicinternational]

Buy your way into heaven!

[TheIchor]

@MrFreelove69

Feel free to replace "Satanists" with the word "humans".

VS

[AmurgAprins]

@MrFreelove69 Exactly what kind of action do you expect from a satanist?

[MrFreelove69]

Most Satanists are all mouth no action....LaVey no exception.

[moonhowlerwolf13]

@satanicinternational I agree with you on the saving your money and not waste it on the CoS, Satan represents knowledge, read and read satan will say. Education=Satan

[Nguli34689]

I have never seen the first edition in hardback of the Satanic Bible. I do have a 95 cent copy of the Avon's first edition of the Satanic Bible which does have the dedication page in it. I liked the select bibliography of The Compleat Witch. Some of the passages From The Devil's Notebook could be found in the Cloven Hoof (mid-1970's editions). I wrote Remembering Anton LaVey for the Thelema Lodge Newsletter (February 1998). I used Satanism to deprogram myself from Christianity's influence.

[nargargole]

The Devil's Notebook is the one for me! I think you have to bear in mind what was around at the time - in the way of alternative books, I mean Anton certainly put Satanism 'out there' in the public domain, and really motivated people to explore Satanism, even by default the theistic side of Satanism, so all in all I support Anton and his work.

[hauntedsouth]

There is no REASON to think that about LaVey. Sure, Satan does represent the hidden/unknown force(s) in nature, but why should an impersonal force be elevated above the self when it is just that: impersonal and unknown? To suggest otherwise, you would have to make a lot of unfounded assumptions about the nature of reality. Likewise, you would have to make a lot of unfounded assumptions about LaVey to suggest that he would even subscribe to such notion. There is simply no reason to.

[shawnhartnell]

I agree with that. However, why co-opt a symbol when you're creating your own system? This negates the purpose of using 'Satan' as a symbol in the first place. It has no value on it's own.

Indulgence is primal. It's not a reaction to an outside influence.

[jason666king]

Meaning he could have drawn an independent meaning for Satan rather than a dependent one. His Satanism was a REaction to Christian mores rather than being a self-defined metaphysic.