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[ndrthrdr1]

@Gericho49 Being atheist simply means claiming lack of theistic belief. That's not the same as claiming knowledge of there being no possibility of any god(s). The Bible, by listing the descendants from Adam on down, implies that humans have only been here a few thousand years, and says that Adam was created from dirt, rather than evolving from lower life forms. Science shows that to be just plain wrong.

[Gericho49]

@AConvincedAtheist Actually it was Einstein who said "the only thing incomprehensible about the universe, is that it IS COMPREHENSIBLE" Without God Einstein cannot explain why the world should be rationally intelligible, why abstract scientific laws exist or where they came from. So In your worldview intelligence is illusory, just chemical reactions in brain tissue, right? When all reality is reducible to mindless matter logic doesnt even exist. Such is the absurdity of atheism. Think about it

[Gericho49]

@jmacisdope2 u really need to study some basic science: Alex Vilenkin, Russian cosmologist "With the proof now in place, current cosmologists can no longer hide behind the possibility of a past-eternal universe. There is no escape: we have to face the problem of a cosmic beginning."

Read Penrose/Hawkings findings. Get educated

[Gericho49]

@ndrthrdr1 For centuries atheists claimed the universe was eternal in the past. On the other hand, the Bible for several millenia has been saying No! the universe began in a cataclysmic event in which all time, matter & space was created. It also said that plant life 1st covered the earth, life began in the oceans and man, the high point of creation was formed from the dust of the earth. Does this sound familiar, like modern science & cosmology?

[ndrthrdr1]

I can see the possibility that someday we may "seed" another habitable planet with single-celled organisms as an experiment. Who knows? Maybe that is how life started here. I doubt it, actually, but I don't KNOW that it didn't happen. It's a huge universe, with billions upon billions of possibilities.

When I contrast A) the Biblical version of creation of Earth, humans, the universe itself (!) happening a few thousand years ago with B)stars billions of light-years away, I see that Bible = BS

[Prodigalfather1]

@jmacisdope2 IN the Bible it says several time "before the beginning of time" which implies that God exists independent of time. This was verified by Penrose/Hawking model using Eintein's quatum mechanical model

[Prodigalfather1]

@AConvincedAtheist Your right, man didnt discover abstract laws he invented the math that defines our rationally intelligible universe. Such is the logical absurdity of a blind atheist. On ur count, Einstein must be wrong when without a Creator he said, "the only thing incomprehensible about the universe is that it is comprehensible" Apparently your disbelief in God " tries to take a intelligible approach" but is just the product of the random generation of mindless molecules in motion.

[AConvincedAtheist]

@Gericho49 I wanted to comment on one thing. You asked the question: "Why should the universe be finite and rationally intelligible as well as life-permitting?"

The problem with this logic is that with you making this statement, you are merely putting it into rational thought. You can't escape it. Even belief in a god tries to take a intelligible approach to existence. So, your argument eats itself.

[jmacisdope2]

@Prodigalfather1 yes u right it did all come into existance a finite time ago and the infinite past was BEFORE the universe etc.. u absolutly right!! its no were in reality cuz it transends the natural realm!! thats y i belive God is the cause cuz hes Eternal/Infinite..do u agree?

[Prodigalfather1]

@jmacisdope2 Alex Vilenkin, Russian cosmologist "With the proof now in place, current cosmologists can no longer hide behind the possibility of a past-eternal universe. There is no escape: we have to face the problem of a cosmic beginning."

Prof. Freeman Dyson theoretical physicist "The more we understand about the universe the more it seems like it knew we were coming."