Carville on Airport Security: 'Go Measure My Penis and Let Me Get on The Airplane'

The Tony Kornheiser Show on ESPN 980 Radio, more at espn980.com, January 8, 2010

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[Nogeorgiabelle]

This is ridiculous. This latest attempted attack had nothing to do with a lack of scanners. It had everything to do with govt officials not acting on information--even information given to them by the guy's father, a prominent banker. All this talk of scanners is just officials' deflecting the responsibility for their screw-up.

[freesk8]

He's free to sacrifice HIS privacy and dignity.

But his implication is that everyone should value their liberties so little.

He has NO right to demand that I and others sacrifice our rights for a little temporary security.

As Franklin said, those willing to sacrifice those essential liberties deserve neither liberty nor safety.

[Clackergille]

holy shit people, the reaction to this in the comments is priceless

[freesk8]

I assume you are talking about a private beach, otherwise a requirement of nudity would violate liberty and thus be wrong.

You have no right to access to private property, so the owner may place any arbitrary restriction on your going to the nude beach.

Similarly, airlines are free to place arbitrary restrictions on your doing business with them.

But that is NOT what is happening here. The govt has forced the TSA on airlines and the people. The airspace is public, not private.

[freesk8]

Of course airlines have a right to refuse you for any reason, even a reason that violates the Constitution, but that is not what is happening here.

The TSA is a GOVT agency and the TSA is doing the searching.

They have forced themselves on the airlines and on the people.

The TSA is govt agents, and if they force the airline to comply, then the airline is acting as a govt agent as well. The Const. applies to them, and the 4th amendment with it.

[van1980]

If I walk on to a nude beach that has signs displayed that all individuals at said beach must be nude, are my rights being violated if I don't wish to undress? No, I simply need to make the decision not to use their beach.

Same with air travel. Flying is not a right, it's a process of mutual agreement.

[van1980]

You don't have a right to fly, you're using private services. Any company can put stipulations on their services. Read the back of your airline ticket; you agreed to their searches when, having read your ticket as a citizen should, you proceed through security.

[freesk8]

That's subjective, but what is clearly true is that there are no warrants being issued, no probable cause (merely traveling domestically by air does not constitute probable cause you are a terrorist, any more than entering a bank is probable cause that you are a bank robber.)

Also, no person is specified if such a warrant exists.

I think these searches ARE unreasonable.

But they clearly lack warrants, and so are unconstitutional.

[van1980]

The searches are not unreasonable.

[freesk8]

4th Amendment: "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

Where is the warrant for these searches?

Even though they may be TRYING to make me safer, they are not. So this violates my rights for nothing.

[catbone10101]

@AxRhea88

Damn liberals

[van1980]

@freesk8 What right is being sacrificed, significance junkie? Privacy? They're not coming into your home, you're using THEIR services and they're trying to make it safer for you. No rights are being sacrificed. Find something else for your pseudo outrage.