Q2 - Evolution, Recreating the big bang?

Im interested in all sorts, faiths and atheism, logic and reason, stupidity and being daft... What are your thoughts on recreating the big bang?
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[Wordavee1]

My thoughts? Buy a book on evolution, then read it, then you won't have to ask questions which can't be answered in 500 characters.

[HaveYouGotTheAnswer]

@Wordavee1 @Wordavee1 - So Evolution or the big bang is only ever going to be complicated and for the elite to understand?

[Desertphile]

I shall make a reply video. Smirk.

[HaveYouGotTheAnswer]

@Desertphile Thank you sir for your video reply, i enjoyed your sense of humour and i did learn something from it. Take care. Herb

[luccaskunk]

Uh, yesh. The Big Bang has nothing to do with evolution. Evolution is a biological theory, Big Bang is Cosmological. Anyone who tells you they're related is full of crap.

As for recreating the big bang, no, that's not what they're doing. I don't know who told you that. They're trying to recreate the conditions that occurred just moments after the big bang to see what happens. It's a harmless experiment and they don't know what will happen, which makes it a very interesting experiment.

[sfg911]

@Lilmakse Are you aware of the fused chromosome? All apes have one more chromosome than us. An organism cannot loose a chromosome and survive. We can't be related to apes with one less chromosome.... however when comparing genes we find humans have a fused chromosome that used to be two.

If you really want to deny evolution you can make the excuse that god designed us that way to confuse us.

[sfg911]

@Lilmakse Most evolution works with genes that already exist. We share ALL the same genes with chimps with very minor differences. We have a gene for muscle weakness (why chimps are smaller but much stronger than us) causing a smaller jaw muscle and allowed a larger brain size. We have the same amount of hair as a chimp.. just smaller hair. Goosebumps are to make your hair stand up to keep you warm or make you look bigger when threatened. Completely useless now that we have no hair.

[sfg911]

@Lilmakse If there was a human with an alien like head, a new digestive system and drastically different behavior... would it still be a human? No.... Chimps and humans have more in common than the original lizard and the one found 30 years later.



[sfg911]

@Lilmakse A new creature in one generation? Impossible.

Ring species are a color spectrum, a rainbow of colors. You start with red and end up with blue but you can never pick the exact location where the color changes from red to blue.

[sfg911]

@Lilmakse God inserting genetic code from a virus? This would be extremely deceiving and serve no purpose. We share something like 16 recent ERV markers with chimps and this same relationship is seen between any closely related species. The recent ERVs are from viruses that still exist so you can compare the code and see where the copy error occurred.

There is no other explanation. Along with all the other separate lines of evidence there is no honest way to denying evolution

[Lilmakse]

@sfg911 To be honest I can't argue against or for ERVs because I honestly don't know enough about them. I will say in your last response you said, 'The virus inserts it's code into a virtually random location' and yet it's in the exact same place for us - backing evolution, but, let's say everything was created, as I said before we do have a similar build up structure as chimps so couldn't the creator have put the markers in the same place as for both to survive - seeing as we were made similar?

[Lilmakse]

@sfg911 Not necessarily, I do believe that from a male and female of a creature reproducing you can get a new creature.

If you have a male and female creature with let's say one hundred bits of information between them, when they reproduce, fifty bits of information comes from the male and fifty from the female but from the female may give ten of the same genes as the male did therefore ten bits of information are lost creating something new.

So the Ring Species could be interpreted that way too

[Lilmakse]

@sfg911 Ok you've explained to me how the lizard adapted but still haven't answered my question, how do we know the lizard did not already have the genetic information to adapt?

[sfg911]

@Lilmakse The lizard is still a lizard, yes. And humans are still apes.

Ring species are what we would expect to find in evolution. When a species changes from one distinct type to another it's via a spectrum. A dog does not give birth to a cat. Between blue and green you can have thousands of shades. It is impossible to pick out the color where it changes from blue to green. That is how evolution works too. If species were created we would not expect to see things like ring species.

[sfg911]

@Lilmakse The lizard grew cecal valves to help digest plant food, which were never seen in this species, including the source population. Also the head and jaw changed dramatically to handle tougher plants.

Humans are not all that different from chimps. We certainly don't have different digestive organs. If you consider humans and chimps a different species when we share almost every gene then this lizard is a clear example of species level evolution.