Sen. Coburn: We'll Read Senate HCR Bill 'Section by Section' ... This Bill is 'Malpractice'

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[two2twinface]

You are saying a bill is bad before reading it? Stop being lazy. We pay you for a job, and easiest part of that job is to READ.

[Smartassawhip]

Isn't Tim Coburn the douche bag who is standing in the way of the bill for veterans who need help being cared for at home?

[route99]

When Tom Coburn isn't being a supposed intermediary between Sen. Ensign and his mistress he prognosticates about health care legislation his party has blocked for decades. Brilliant!

Actually he did say one thing right. 1 in 3 dollars of our HC doesn't go make anyone healthier. It goes to profits and administration at the private insurance companies.

So by his logic the solution is the end of private insurance and a robust single payer plan.

So glad he's finally come to his senses.

[CPAsheldon]

@two2twinface: We do agree that we need to introduce more competition to limit monopolies.

Having more decision makers deciding which insurance to buy will help more competition form in local markets. If the employers are free to not include health care insurance benefits and the employees get a great tax benefit by opting out, many will because they will want to choose their own insurance options when they find a better one. This should help as more will be demanding more choices.

[Eldrad235]

he is talking about a bill that he hasn't read......

[two2twinface]

And yes i know that capitalism theorizes that the market works best with multiple choices. But according to your interpretation of governmental powers, we CANNOT encourage that. This is an example of when theory fails in practice. The insurance companies have an understanding that local/state monopoly is the best way to make the most money.

I don't see how insurance credit would help to deter monopolies. Giving it would only deposit money into insurance from tax payers, not solve the problem.

[two2twinface]

Please read my replies completely. I'm not saying the gov does not waste money, but rather they don't waste as much as the private companies. If they do, we simply won't buy it because the public option is not backed by tax money but rather the premiums themselves. This is why the public option is a win win.

If you believe the gov's role is to reinforce contracts, plz do not act as if you are concerned for medicare. And please advocate for the disband of schools, social services, and FDA.

[MooseOfReason]

Richardgwm, So there's no fine or penalty for disobeying the individual mandate?

[CPAsheldon]

two2twinface: Government does have a history of operating less efficiently. If you don't know that I don't think you will understand.

I don't like monopolies either. Our best answer is many private choices for insurance. The governments role is just as an enforcement of the contracts. Why are they cutting Medicare now?

I think everyone should get a 40% refundable credit for buying their own health insurance. Companies could still offer to employees and other buying pools would form.

[two2twinface]

If the gov gives more benefits, they are not wasting as much money as the private sectors then.

If you distrust the gov so much to think they would pull a trick like that then why would you trust the private companies? We have no evidence to deduct that the government will trick us, unless you believe that any gov is evil. At least you have a medium in which to control the government, your vote. We KNOW the insurance companies WILL rob us after attaining monopoly. That's the status quo.

[CPAsheldon]

"If the public plan wastes money then people won't buy it. at worst we have the status quo." two2twinface

Couldn't disagree more. If the government plan pays out more benefits than a private plan with the same premiums, people will go on the government plan, but it will drive out private competitors. Then the government will start denying benefits. It is a death spiral our country does not need.

[Richardgwm]

@MooseofLies

The same thing happens when you ask about death panels, mandatory abortions and forced Satan worship, but none of those things are in the bill.