Did Adam's sin bring death only upon men or upon animals as well (Romans 5:12)?
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@wilby1414 Trying? that was funny. OK, so eve listens to the snake and eats of the bad. Adam was not fooled but lets her do it. Then he sees she is fine and he does it. The 2nd A, Jes, sees man is bad but some want to go to heaven, like me, and J dies for my sin cause I know I'm a a bad dog, but a real bad dog would watch his wife drink poisin, right? On the other hand what would I have done in the same situation? I've got to go along with Adam. His excuse was "what is death"? What's entorpe?
longboardsrules 1 day ago
@longboardsrules I don't think you are trying very much here now are you?
Serpent, devil, deceiver, evil one, Satan, pick one but they are all the same creature.
Serpent has a poison that he delivers to the body, and that is what happened to Eve when she was defiled by this evil creature. Once she became joined with evil she became defiled and part evil as did Adam. The lost their glory and became subject to death. The curse of Adam is death, Jesus came to abolish death.
wilby1414 2 days ago
@wilby1414 Is everythingt straight forward? Sex with a snake? No eternal life for anyone, no redemption, nothing but the blood of Jesus? No lambs blood sprinkled on the door post?
Are you giving me a lesson or making a point? thx
longboardsrules 2 days ago
@longboardsrule321 Adam and Eve were given a commandment -- Do NOT partake of the Tree of Knwledge of Good and Evil -- IF you do you will surely DIE. Very straight forward.
Eve was deceived by Satan the serpent. He put doubt into Eve by twisting God's word as he does today. He said to Eve Did God say? Eve had sex with the devil and she became defiled then sex with Adam and he too became defiled. NO cure. God will not commune with sin and they lost eternal life. So did mankind.
wilby1414 2 days ago
They tell us no mass there is no time, right? They tell us matter appeared. You knew that. The Big Bang is predicated on matter spontaneously appearing. They teach this as fact, matter just appearing. U buy that?
Have you ever seen anything appearing?
Is it possible that we are so finite that the ant does not have the capacity to understand the Jet overhead or intelligence outside our dimension?
longboardsrules 3 weeks ago
Animals do have souls, but their flesh ages twice as fast as ours in proportion to heartbeats. Matter is not capable of consciousness, but consciousness is the soul. So - do not tiorture animals !!
EmmetEarwax 3 weeks ago
Nothing I said suggests that I reject the Big Bang. I DO havre problems with the idea that time had NO beginning, that matter always was. My mind just slides right offr the concept !
EmmetEarwax 3 weeks ago
It was your sin right along with Adams sin that causes spiritual death. Animals are not God conscious. They have no spiritual sin but are in molecular matter which has entropy. We suffer the curse or entropy but for those that love him eternal life. The more important question is making sure you except his free gift. Come to know him & please him.
longboardsrules 3 weeks ago
@EmmetEarwax Certainly you don't believe in big bang either. Hawking says matter just appeared. You do not believe in bio genesis when complex chemicals, amino acids, breakdown. Then what?
A being who is outside of mass + acceleration, who used energy to electronically synthesize matter, formed DNA. A being who looked down from a cross and is so unlike us, who forgave those who spit on him, accuse him. Who gave those who love him the test of his love to see what kind we are.
longboardsrules 3 weeks ago
I do not see why animals, plants,etc., had to be cursed for Adam's sin. I do not believe that a logical ecosystem could exist if nothing ever died. Parasitic worms, etc. I also do not believe in any Adam & Eve, Science and creationism do not mix.
EmmetEarwax 3 weeks ago