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Discuss this video without the 500 character limit at http://dlandoncole.com/node/74

Some interesting videos on this include
Steve Coogan versus Paul McMullan on Newsnight: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxJ5qs_140U&list=UU81n6d134ms0
Hugh Grant versus John Gaunt on Question Time: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WE4g1Jl1tPE&list=UU0AEDtNn-1lM
Tom Watson MP in the Commons: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wl7L3ntAo8
Chris Bryant MP in the Commons: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZB_uzc5ZgQ

The Guardian has been making the running on this one; all of its stories are at http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/phone-hacking and some of the choicer ones that I've used in this video are at
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/08/phone-hacking-emails-news-interna...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/07/news-of-the-world-closure-twitter...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/07/news-of-the-world
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/interactive/2011/jul/07/phone-hacking-newsoft...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/jul/09/murdoch-empire-exposed
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/blog/2011/jul/08/news-of-the-world-phone-hack...

The News of the World's leader that I mentioned: http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/notw/_news/nolnews_opinion/nolopinion_notwsay...

Timeline at Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/News_of_the_World_phone_hacking_affair

Also from Wikipedia, background to Operations Weeting and Elveden (phone-hacking and police corruption respectively):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Weeting
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Elveden

The Metropolitan Police Commissioner's statement:
http://content.met.police.uk/News/Statement-from-Commissioner/1260269177528/1...

More information on Milly Dowler:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milly_Dowler

More information on the Hillsborough Disaster and particularly the Sun's commentary:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillsborough_disaster#The_Sun_newspaper

The quote at the beginning is from Sir Walter Scott's Marmion, VI 17: "Oh what a tangled web we weave/when at first we practise to deceive!"

The quote at the end is from Julius Caesar, I ii: "The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars, But in ourselves, that we are underlings"

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  • Well said!!!

  • @umarglobal Thankyou!

  • Where are all those Wikileaks fans now?

    Shouldn't they be out on the streets protecting the media's right to hack phones?

    After all, if people don't have anything to hide, why are they all complaining about the media having access to tap in? Just put everything out on the table, and let us come to a decision on our own.

    DLondonCole: Knowing your standpoint on Wikileaks, I'd like to see a video on where you see both these issues meeting.

  • @cartbeforehorse That video is now up :)

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  • Until Murdoch goes to Jail I won't be happy, he has helped dumb down the nation with stories on Z list celebs.

    Heavy night lastnight Landon?

  • Good video Landon. Unfortunately there's a reason why the redtops sell so much, people are nosy and lazy, they care more for who is sleeping with who than the politics that actually have a real effect on their lives.

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  • @DLandonCole I'll read that ellipsis as a rye smile :-)

  • @Artifactorfiction Things keep happening. I wouldn't want to venture any opinion...

  • @cartbeforehorse You're right to point out that there's a large grey area here, in which considerations must be made for public interest, security, legality, privacy & so on. I also agree that many of the supporters of Wikileaks went way over the top in attempting to argue that anything & everything should be out in public. However, I do think that even Wikileaks' most ardent fans would have deserted them pretty quick if they'd pulled a stunt like the Milly Dowler hacking. There is a difference.

  • @bimblinghill

    Of course there are distinctions if you pick specific examples. You could just as easily place a distinction between Hugh Grant and Milly Dowler. But that's not my point.

    My point is merely to ask the same questions now as I did back then: How much are we really entitled to know before other considerations become of greater concern?

    Many of the of the arguments I heard to defend Wikileaks back then, could just as easily be applied to Milly Dowler's case now. That is my concern.

  • @cartbeforehorse I'm not a 'fan' of Wikileaks (although I do think they've done some good things), but there's no evidence that they've hacked anything. I know the 'anonymous' lot did & Wikileaks refused to condemn them, but that's not quite the same thing. Another important difference is context.. hypothetically speaking, wouldn't it be different for someone to hack phones to uncover the motivation behind an illegal war than for someone to listen in to grieving relatives?

  • @DLandonCole Still.....there seems no end to this clutch of related stories.....I hear that in US law CEO's can be held accountable for paying bribes in other countries, also the spotlight flits around other (red top and non red top) publications, and the markets are nervous, and B Sky B deal effectively on hold....What will tomorrow bring ?

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