Alan Watts Of Pain And Suffering

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[alaric63]

This is quite alright in my opinion.

Very harmonious.

I am reminded of a Jung quote:

"All insanity comes from inability to endure legitimate suffering."

It is not a fun thing to prove, but it is the way it is, I suppose.

good post, Thanks.

[magicalray93]

Anyone know what talk this is from?

[cosmicmantis]

@stellarshore Only until you let the pain enter and go back to its rightful place can you once again go back to the wholeness that you are. It is also my belief that the lacking to feel pain hurts self and others because of the "jadedness" brought on by it. This is my understanding of it at least and has been proven to me by personal experience. I hope that shed some light on the subject.

[cosmicmantis]

@stellarshore because you ignore it but rather gets stuck in this perpetual motion around you, always trying to find its way back to the source, which is you (I realize I've been responding to my own comments and might have mixed some of them up so excuse my lack of attention). When that pain is stuck in that perpetual motion outside of you, it creates a void in your self that was once filled by your capacity to feel pain. The void brings about more pain. "What you resist will only persist".

[cosmicmantis]

@cosmicmantis that doesn't do it much justice. We all feel pain, right? So then if we all feel pain, why resist it? Because it hurts, right? Well of course it is our first impulse to escape pain because it is not pleasurable and we all enjoy pleasure with minor exceptions, right? So then if you were to feel pain and your response to the pain is to escape it and "push it out", sort of speak, then you are rejecting what you are and almost cutting a piece off from your self. The pain does not leave

[cosmicmantis]

@cosmicmantis "pain" from the entire emotional spectrum to better understand it. As Gurdjieff said, we are "three brained beings" in the sense that we have sexual desire, emotion and thought. This we can see as the mechanism of the human being. In other words, you are what you feel, think and lust. That right there shows the infinite complexity of what we truly are and to say we are "red, blue, green" (using my rainbow metaphor) would be to narrow down this wonderful complexity into something

[cosmicmantis]

@stellarshore Let me put it this way; we separate things to understand them. In a rainbow, we say there are seven colors, right? We narrow it down to seven because it is those seven that are distinct from each other and make it easier for us to understand but in reality, are there really just seven? There is a multitude of colors in between the seven named, what might or might not be an infinite amount. This same rule applies to the world at large, including emotion. We separate what we know as