This is my response to Other4815´s challenge to Atheists : the ol´ what-came-first brain teaser. As an Atheist who believes strongly in evolution ; here´s my take on it! (Enjoy=) original vid : www.youtube.com/watch?v=78MGfFPsbfE
You know, the simplist answer is usually the correct one... a long long time ago, some bird like creature had a baby. Over the next few hundred generations, those babies began to shrink and produce smaller babies with more feathers and a sharper beak. One day, they layed an egg, and BAM! out popped a small chicken. didnt seem to diffrent from the other creatures so reproduction wasnt a problem. THE END.
It is one thing that does, but that isn't exclusive at all. It may not be even the most common way. Look at horses. The earliest are quite small, the size of a big dog. Today we have huge Arabian stallions. Was that a mutant gene? Maybe, but probably not. It was just the smaller horses dying without propagating and larger ones living to do so. A biological advantage. It isn't always a wild mutant gene making a sudden change.
@BattleshipTx If you're going to put it like that... then what is a chicken?! :P The first 'chicken' was probably very different to chickens today - but how different does it have to be until it is no longer classed as a chicken? And even chickens today have thousands of different breeds...
Even so, it would still be the egg if you consider that an animal that is practically a 'chicken' apart from 1 gene could lay an egg containing an animal that is 100% chicken, due to 1 mutant gene.
@forhisglory723 So how do you see that as impacting this discussion? Are you saying that means eggs came first? Or chickens? Because I could argue either one.
@BattleshipTx: You may want to be Checkin Fox News site for a Chicken vs. Egg article which came out over the last few days. British Scientists discovered a protien which is present, ONLY in the adult females ovaries. Not just chickens either.
@BattleshipTx but that´s just going back a step..That chicken you´re talking about now, IT came out of an egg.. since all birds & their ancestors start out as eggs necessarily, the egg came first. Both chronologically and in evolutionary terms.
You know, the simplist answer is usually the correct one... a long long time ago, some bird like creature had a baby. Over the next few hundred generations, those babies began to shrink and produce smaller babies with more feathers and a sharper beak. One day, they layed an egg, and BAM! out popped a small chicken. didnt seem to diffrent from the other creatures so reproduction wasnt a problem. THE END.
XxDrRainfallxX 5 months ago
@BattleshipTx Oh yeah, good point!
AngieTheSherbert 6 months ago
@AngieTheSherbert "Mutant genes are what causes evolution, right? "
It is one thing that does, but that isn't exclusive at all. It may not be even the most common way. Look at horses. The earliest are quite small, the size of a big dog. Today we have huge Arabian stallions. Was that a mutant gene? Maybe, but probably not. It was just the smaller horses dying without propagating and larger ones living to do so. A biological advantage. It isn't always a wild mutant gene making a sudden change.
BattleshipTx 6 months ago
@BattleshipTx Mutant genes are what causes evolution, right? Not my field of expertise if i'm honest, still studying biology at school :P
AngieTheSherbert 6 months ago
@BattleshipTx If you're going to put it like that... then what is a chicken?! :P The first 'chicken' was probably very different to chickens today - but how different does it have to be until it is no longer classed as a chicken? And even chickens today have thousands of different breeds...
Even so, it would still be the egg if you consider that an animal that is practically a 'chicken' apart from 1 gene could lay an egg containing an animal that is 100% chicken, due to 1 mutant gene.
AngieTheSherbert 6 months ago
@forhisglory723 So how do you see that as impacting this discussion? Are you saying that means eggs came first? Or chickens? Because I could argue either one.
BattleshipTx 1 year ago
@BattleshipTx: You may want to be Checkin Fox News site for a Chicken vs. Egg article which came out over the last few days. British Scientists discovered a protien which is present, ONLY in the adult females ovaries. Not just chickens either.
forhisglory723 1 year ago
You're wrong. The entire chicken vs egg dilemma is based on a misunderstanding of what a species is.
Your assessment of the problem is incorrect.
TheAmazingBiped 1 year ago
like a sledge hammer to the face of reason he shall cower>>>>>>>>>gererrer - Mort.
panjea23 1 year ago
@BattleshipTx but that´s just going back a step..That chicken you´re talking about now, IT came out of an egg.. since all birds & their ancestors start out as eggs necessarily, the egg came first. Both chronologically and in evolutionary terms.
ArtWerkZ 1 year ago