Omniscience, Omnipotence, & Freewill

Omniscience, Omnipotence, and Freewill:

If God = ∞ Knowledge + ∞ Power
and knowing future thoughts = Predestined Choices
Then ∞ Knowledge = 0 Free Choices
So ∞ Knowledge = 0 Power
Thus, God = √-1 (imaginary)

Allow me to elaborate on this clever and humorous little argument:

If God is omniscient, then he has infinite knowledge of everything past, present, and future, and if God is omnipotent, then he has infinite power to do anything.

Now, if the future is already known by God, then it is set in stone. This means that God cannot manipulate the world to cause a different future. He would be essentially powerless, not infinitely powerful.

I've heard the argument that states that God transcends time, allowing him to see everything as it happens.
However, this would mean that God views everything as the present. He would be incapable of viewing the past or future, because he could only view the present. This would take away from his omnipotence.

If the future is indeed set in stone, all actions are predetermined, or predestined. If every action and choice is predetermined, freewill cannot exist. For true freewill to exist, one must be able to have complete control and knowledge of everything pertaining to one's choice. Without possessing both of these qualities, a person's choice would not be determined by the person making the choice. Without complete control, a person's environment would influence the person, and therefore determine the choice. Without complete knowledge, a person's ignorance of important aspects of a choice would influence the person and determine the choice. One must be able to have complete control over their own environment and know everything pertaining to a choice for that choice to be truly "free."

So, the argument is simple. It compares the contradictions of these 3 qualities to the contradiction of a negative square root. Logically, a square root of a negative number cannot exist, based on the meanings of the terms being used. And logically, omniscience, omnipotence, and freewill cannot exist together, based on the meanings of these words and the implications of each one's existence.

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[dfpolis]

God knows what we choose because He sees all space-time at once. He knows what we choose precisely because WE choose it. God also knows how He chooses to exercise His power because HE chooses to exercise it. You misunderstand God transcending time: It means ALL times are equally present to Him. Free will is not absolute. It means we have some real alternatives, & WE decide which will be real. God sees the new line of action originating in us & knows we are free. Imaginary numbers are logical.

[JustinTheAtheist]

@dfpolis You forget that God does not exist.

And are you really this intent on converting people to your specific religion?

[dfpolis]

@JustinTheAtheist No. You can only forget things you once knew. No one can know a non-fact. I have not made any videos favoring my faith over all the others that acknowledge the existence of God. If you are going to criticize, stick to what I do. Peace, Dennis

[JustinTheAtheist]

@dfpolis "If you are going to criticize, stick to what I do. Peace, Dennis"

Criticize? Why would I want to criticize? Stick to what you do? What's that? Trolling and criticizing others?

Apparently I was mistaken on your intent. Clearly you favor trolling and criticizing others more than you favor your god.

True knowledge may not exist, but have some common sense and realize that gods were made up by people.

[JustinTheAtheist]

@dfpolis Peace, Justin

[dfpolis]

@FallofDarkness55 Yes, I have a Ph. D. in theoretical physics, and yes, I have studied this for a long time. More importantly, I have also studied philosophy, which they seem largely ignorant of. Physics does not deal with God or how God relates to the universe. So, studying physics does not qualify anyone to judge whether or not God is necessary to maintain the universe in being. Only studying metaphysics qualifies a person to make rational analyses of such things. Peace, DP

[FallofDarkness55]

@dfpolis Wrong! Hawking and Mlodinow are reputable physicists with Ph.D.'s. They've studied this stuff for a long time! Have you? So before saying they're wrong, i'd think twice about what i said.

[dfpolis]

@FallofDarkness55 I didn't say parallel universes are unscientific, but naturalism's a priori restrictions on reality. If a theory posits unobservable things, it is unfalsifiable, and ipso facto unscientific.Hypotheses must be falsifiable to be scientific. Universes we can't see are the same as leprechauns we can't see. They may be, but it's not science. God exists given any physics including M-Theory. Hawking & Mlodinow are as ignorant of philosophy as they are informed on physics. Peace, DP

[FallofDarkness55]

@dfpolis The notion of parallel universes is actually not unscientific. It is a part of theoretical physics and a theory called M-theory, which makes god unnecessary! In fact if you think about it mathematically the afterlife would require infinitely many parallel universes due to your heaven and my multi-verse which is actually the same thing. And because of god's so-called benevolence and omnipotence where would hell fit into this picture? It wouldn't! Hell is entirely fictitious!

[dfpolis]

@FallofDarkness55 Not parallel universes, just real possibilities in this universe. Even if there wrere parallel universes, each would have laws of nature which evidence God. Anya priori limitation on the nature of exist4nce is irrational and unscientific. Peace, DP

[FallofDarkness55]

@dfpolis "You misunderstand God transcending time: It means ALL times are equally present to Him. Free will is not absolute. It means we have some real alternatives, & WE decide which will be real." This statement implies parallel universes which actually eliminates the existence of an omnipotent, omniscient, benevolent being. You could think of parallel universes as an extension of our physics whereas supernaturalism is an absurd notion fabricated by humans!