Mario Del Monaco Tito Gobbi Otello (vaimusic.com)

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Mario Del Monaco & Tito Gobbi sing "Era la notte, Cassio dormia - Si, pel ciel marmoreo giuro!" From: Otello (Giuseppe Verdi)
From: VAI DVD 4425 Otello (Verdi)
An historic live 1959 performance starring Mario Del Monaco in his most celebrated portrayal, partnered by illustrious colleagues Gabriella Tucci and Tito Gobbi, and maestro Alberto Erede leading the NHK Symphony Orchestra.
Includes optional subtitles in English, French, German, Italian, and Spanish with embedded Japanese subtitles.
131 minutes, Black & White, mono, All regions.
Live in Japan (1959)
Alberto Erede, conductor.
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[31122051]

Che grandi critici che ci sono qui su YouTube !!! Se T. Gobbi non sa cantare allora siamo messi proprio male. Ma come diavolo fate a denigrare il più grande baritono della storia del canto ????? T. Gobbi è stato OGGETTIVAMENTE grandissimo e non serve assolutamente a nulla fare insensati paragoni con altri baritoni. Chi lo definisce " inascoltabile " dimostra, a mio giudizio, una cosa soltanto, di non avere orecchio e nessun tipo di competenza in materia di opera. Viva Tito Gobbi !

[italopera]

Viva Tito Gobbi et Viva Mario del Monaco

[sugarbist]

@8x8MaVerick8x8 Domingo also has a reputation for transposing entire operas & arias beyond acceptable practices.There's is a Di Quella Pira on YT that Domingo sings without a high note, A Ch'ella Mi Creda transposed a Half tone down on a concert platform.(World Class tenor?)PD does sound wonderful in the Zarzuelas,which carry a lower tessitura.Domingo is also a fine actor&good musician when not stressed by the heavier roles.If my profile of PD is accurate,I don't believe he is 1 of the best ever

[sugarbist]

@8x8MaVerick8x8 Domingo has a fine quality of voice, but as you say he does not have the thrust to be a spinto.Other fine lyric spintos are Bjorling, Bergonzi,Peerce,Lamberti,Preve­di,Aragall,& perhaps Raimondi.Domingo does not compare in size of voice to Spinto tenors like Bonisoli, Tucker,Barioni,Campagnano,Fill­ipeschi,Volpi,Caruso,De Muro,Corelli,Martinucci,Penno&­Limarilli.Aound1990Domingo went on an unsuccessful campaign to lower the universal pitch.Every instrument would have to be repitched

[sugarbist]

@8x8MaVerick8x8Just my opinion.As I mentioned earlier.I think Domingo's voice was more suited for roles like Traviata,Butterfly,Rigoletto,B­allo,Boheme,Fedora,Don Carlo,Werther.Louisa Miller,Hoffman Fidelio etc. and then he could have possibly crossed over to some occasional Toscas,Cavalleria,Ernani,Early Trovatore was pretty good.Maybe transitioning occasionally to the spinto roles would have put less stress on his voice.I'm still not sure that would have helped his adventurous hi notes.Continue

[8x8MaVerick8x8]

@8x8MaVerick8x8 For super dramatic roles or heldentenor roles. So it doesn't seem to fit in anywhere nicely. Now there are, of course, unique voices, but I just wonder what the general idea is for him. He's done well obviously and been very versatile, but it's not clear what rep really "fits" the voice well.

[8x8MaVerick8x8]

@sugarbist What you say makes sense. The part that confuses me though is that if his voice isn't suited for spinto roles, it's not clear for what he is best suited. I mean you can dislike the voice or love it, but one way or the other, it's very hard to classify. He's obviously not leggiero, doesn't have the light, ringing ease of a lyric, here you argue against the popular classification of spinto (I'm not challenging you, here, mind), he doesn't really seem to have the thrust

[sugarbist]

@8x8MaVerick8x8 When Domingo sings the spinto roles like Aida Chenier Trovatore etc. He seems to labor significantly,shortening his phrasing&squeezing out his hi notes which often fall short,perhaps because of the demanding tessitura or because his voice is not suited for the spinto roles as the voices I mentioned earlier.I saw him in Pagliacci in the 90s & he was hardly audible.He also left out the 2nd B natural in No Pagliaccio Non Son which I thought the 1st was a B flat. A WORLD CLASS TENOR?

[sugarbist]

@8x8MaVerick8x8As a baritone,it's not really confusing.When a tenor sings as a baritone, the tessitura is obviously lower& the voice is more comfortable because it's not being stressed& taxed as it is in the tenor roles.Voices do darken with age &it seems that Domingo is in a comfort zone with Boccanegra,which is fine.I'm really not sure why PD has a problem with his top,But when singing the lighter roles like Traviata,Butterfly&Rigoletto,P­D doesn't seem to have too much trouble with high notes,

[8x8MaVerick8x8]

@sugarbist I don't understand, just from a theoretical standpoint why Domingo has and has had such trouble with his top given that his voice doesn't have the weight of those others you mention. Furthermore, it's odd and confusing that he seems to be making a run of baritone roles (his Boccanegra was excellent), which seems odd given that he's merely lyric spinto.

[sugarbist]

@williamforever1958Like DelMonaco or not.Vickers voice was very pitchy and fatty, Although he was impressive at times.Domingo is plainly not suited for the role.Domingo is a lyric spinto at best and simply doesn't compare to the great Dramatic Otello's. Like Martinelli, Merli,Zenatello Pertile Piccaluga Vinay.Del Monaco also had impeccable diction&phrasing, along with a capability in the Recitatives that Domingo never had.Del Monaco never had the priviledge of enhancing his recording as PD did

[hswatnik]

what a great thing to hear & see- wow!