An Evolutionist Finds the Truth of Creation

Searching for Evolutionists Who will Defend Their Position (DEBATE DODGERS)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Re6d-EvKkbA

Was Lucy An Ape-man?
http://www.icr.org/article/1072 

1976 - *Johnson said "Lucy has massive V-shaped jaws in contrast to man". (National Geographic Magazine, 150: 790-810). 

1977 - Tiny skull, ape type head, chimp size braincase of 450cc. "was suprisingly short legged" (*Time, Novenber 7, 1979, pp. 68-69). 

1979 - *Johanson and *White placed Lucy under ape/man classification (Australopithecus afarensis).

1979 - *Owen Lovejoy an anatomist, (Leakey's associate) at a lecture in the United States, states Lucy's knee joints revealed her to be as ape.1981 - *Johnson said, "embarrassingly un-Homo like" (Science 81, 2(2): 53-55).

1982 - *Dr. Yves Coppens on BBC-TV, Lucy's skull was like that of an ape.

1982 - thumb apelike, toes long and curved for tree climbing and "she probably nested in the trees and lived like others monkeys" *Susman and *Stern of New York University, (Bible Science Newsletter, 1982, p. 4)

1983 - *Jeremy Cherfas, Ankle bone (talus) tilts back like a gorilla (humans tilt forward for walking upright). "Unmistakable" differences between Lucy and humans (*J. Cherfas, New Science, (97: 172 [1982].

1984 - "To Complicate matters further, some researchers believe that afarensis sample [Lucy] is really a mixture of two separate species. The most convincing evidence fot this is based on characterists of the knee and elbow joints." *Peter Andrews, "The Desent of Man," in New Svience, 102:24 (1984).

1990 - "Although the Lucy fossils were initally date at three million years, *Johnson had announced them as 3.5 million because he said the species was 'the same' as a skull found by *Mary Leaky at Laetoli, Tanzania. By proposing *Mary Leakey's find as the 'type specimen' for Australopithecus afarensis, he was identifing Lucy with another fossil 1,000 miles [1609 km] from the Afar [in northern Ethopia] and half a million years older! *Mary thought the two not at all the same and refused to have any part of linking her specimen with [*Johnson's] afarensis.. She announced that she strongly resented Johnson's 'approriating' her find, her reputation and the older date to lend authority to Lucy. Thus began the bitter, persistent feud between Johnson and the Leakeys." *R. Milner, Encyclopedia of Evolution (1990), p. 285. 

"Johnson himself originally described the fossils as Homo, a species of man, but soon after changed his mind based on the assessment of his colleague, *Tim White. They now describe the bones as too apelike in the jaws, teeth and skull to be considered Homo, yet also sufficiently distinct from other, later australopithecines to warrent their own species." *Ibid.

"The evidence.. Makes its overwhelmingly likely that Lucy was no more than a variety of pigmy chimpanzee, and walked the same way (awkwardly upright on occasions, but mostly quadrupedal). The 'evidence' for alleged transformation from ape to man is extremely unconvincing." A.W. Mehlert, news note, Creation Research Society Quarterly, December 1985, p. 145. 

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[MumblingMickey]

@5tonyvvvv "In CONTROLLED LABORATORY CONDITIONS!!!!!.. where you are controlling every step of the experiment!!!!!."

~Sorry no, you are confused here. Physicists cannot control every step of any experiment... we cannot MAKE things form compounds, We cannot make things form replicating structures...nor can we MAKE them self assemble... we can only observe what does and what does not do those things.

Science does not know everything...if it did ...it would stop!

[TaslemGuy]

Evolution is a scientific fact. Why is it that we can construct concurring phylogenetic trees? Why is it that genetic similarity can be used to build a heirarchy? Why is it that we find gradually changing transitional forms in the fossil record?

[odinata]

The truth is, organisms evolve.



[swisscheesepotatochi]

@5tonyvvvv actually, there are certain things that are leading towards "order". Molecules and atoms try to find the lowest possible energy states because they are stable, thus resulting in the formation of ionic and covalent bondings in basic molecules. Just look at how coal is formed through the immense pressure without human intervention. Energy is given out when bonds in between molecules are formed...But these molecules are more complex than their constituents.

[MumblingMickey]

If it is actually impossible for living things to not be capable of being formed from non living things...then what are you arguing about...clearly many billions are being wasted every year demonstrating this!

Its not your money anyway...its mostly private investment... So all these investors and the literally millions of biologists, physicists and engineers involved in the field are all wrong...and you are right.

So you'll have no problem with it yes?

[MumblingMickey]

@5tonyvvvv Is observed to be a process under laboratory conditions... So for example Oppenheimer did not INVENT nuclear fission... he observed it to be possible and harnessed it! And he done so under labaratory conditions...

But if you look up at the sun you will see for yourself that that process existed BEFORE Oppenheimer.

Physicists don't create the laws of the nature. We only observe them! We can't MAKE two particles bond ... regardless of what conditions we apply. Chemistry dictates that.

[MumblingMickey]

@5tonyvvvv And lastly you have no clue what Darwinian evolution states. We've moved on from that since it was penned over 150 years ago. We now call the entire thing 'Genomics'. The study of how living things are living things and how since we know how they came to be...how we can use that information to create NEW things which are not prone to evolution.

Thats the difficult bit, we can build such structures but processes like evolution will fuck it up for us! Hence all the legislation.

[5tonyvvvv]

@MumblingMickey In CONTROLLED LABORATORY CONDITIONS!!!!!.. where you are controlling every step of the experiment!!!!!..Wow!!! you people are so stubborn its amazing!! These reactions take place because you make them happen!!!..LOL..natural processes never do this, everything in nature is leading towards breaking down!!!..the same way stanley miller used a trap to collect his amino acids..None of this would ever happen on primordial earth!!!!!