Nagewaza (Judo)& Irimi Demo--Shotokan Karate Nisei Week 2009

This demo is part of the 4th degree black belt test for Shotokan Karate of America. When many judo players started learning karate, it became important to learn these to deal with their attacks. The Nisei Week Karate Tournament is the oldest karate tourney in the U.S. It was started by Tsutomu Ohshima (seated at the table), who also devised the tournament rules widely in use today. See http://www.ska.org for more info.

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[kengland45]

So you're right--these are both karateka, but one is attacking with karate attacks, and generic chokes, holds, etc. This is part of our 4th degree black belt test. For our 3rd degree test, we have to demonstrate "Torite" (escaping moves); these are done from a seated (mokuso), cross-legged position. Most of these can be found in the classic "Karate-do Kyohan" book, considered the "Bible" of karate, and written by Shotokan founder, Master Funakoshi.

[kengland45]

When karate was introduced to mainland Japan, the fighting distance became much further; judokas would almost immediately throw them. In Shotokan Ohshima Karate, you're required to demonstrate these judo techniques to deal w/ different grabs, holds, chokes, etc. Irimi is a way of escaping an attack by going INTO the attacker, and preemptively attacking them when they mentally DECIDE to attack (not when they later move to attack).This is only done in Shotokan Ohshima Karate, in my understanding.

[uberduke]

I'm sorry, the description is a bit confusing - are you saying the judoka had to learn the karateka's attacks, or is it the other way round? The video seems to be more of a demonstration of judo (with a karateka attacking)