What Not Even God Could Know
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I say "all-knowing" is a logical impossibility. no being can fully know itself and you've basically said that in this vid. I'd buy VERY knowledgeable but not ALL-knowing.
Could a god that always existed know his origins? or know his purpose in waiting for all eternity before creating anything? it's all fictional meaningless mumbo jumbo that philosophers love to wallow in.
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@Lowraith - Many thanks for your responses, Lowraith! It's nice to hear another person tell me they understand what I'm going through, w\regard to leaving Christianity. Only another "victim" of this kind of brainwashing could fully understand the pain & effort it took to break out of that, to let our families down, etc. But we had to do it, once we saw it was all based on myth & too much "belief", vs. attaining real knowledge about anything.
Thanks again!
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"I would have never left Christianity"
My sincerest congratulations. As a former Christian myself, I understand how hard it is to break free of the circular reasoning, fear/threats of eternal torment, and the stigma placed on you by your Christian friends/family. Religion is a drug, and it can be hard to quit cold turkey. I briefly considered reincarnation as a stepping stone down from Christianity. But I never fooled myself into thinking there was evidence of it.
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"I change my mind, when better evidence presents, itself, etc!"
I hope so. I also hope you consider what I've said regarding the statements you accepted as evidence of reincarnation. Evidence of a conclusion must necessitate that conclusion. It should not easily lead to other possible conclusions in addition to the one you think it evidences, and it should lead you to the conlcusion, no the other way around.
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"No, you don't do good BECAUSE you "believe" in reincarnation."
Good, glad to hear it :) Many people with that religious beliefs do, though. :/
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Best case, a supernatural belief will not be expressed. A person will take action based on their personal morality, then use their supernatural belief afterward to give context and meaning to those actions.
Worst case, a supernatural belief will dictate the actions of an individual. It will alter their personal morality after the fact to justify those actions. The net value of a belief in a general scope will average somewhere between the best and worst cases.
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To the contary, I was attempting to avoid making assumptions about your personal beliefs. There are hundreds of flavors of every religious/supernatural belief, so I typically argue against the general supernatural belief closest to the ideals expressed by an individual, until they more specifically define their personal flavor of that belief. My arguments were against a general conceptualization of reincarnation.
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@Lowraith - Of course I don't only decide on what to believe in, based on... whatever sounds good enough to me! (lol) I do what YOU do! I do research! I study! I look these things up! I change my mind, when better evidence presents, itself, etc! If I didn't... I would have never left Christianity, and I'd still be praying to a dead guy & believing HE'S responsible for the state of my soul- or of who I am! Come on!
I wasn't trying to get you to accept reincarnation. You don't have to!
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@Lowraith - No, you don't do good BECAUSE you "believe" in reincarnation. And people's concepts of Heaven\Hell are very Greek-inspired, very mythical, etc. and aren't at all what those words ACTUALLY mean. When people think of "Heaven" they think little baby angels w\wing & harps, and when they think of "Hell" they think of a Hades-like underworld, where people poke you in naughty places w\tridents. (lol)
This isn't at ALL what I "believe in" mate. I don't live my life for "belief" anyway.
@Cadzie442 I see you say below that I plagiarized Richard Dawkins. You say it's a "current Popular Athiest" book, but Dawkins' last atheist book was The God Delusion, about 5 years ago. I have a copy right here. You could mention the page numbers and totally own me, but I'll bet that you won't say shit because you even know you're a lying fucktard asswipe. You're sinking about as low as you can go with these false accusations.
TaylorX04 2 months ago 7
If the god of the bible really was omniscient, then there would be no reason for him to keep getting so angry in the old testament. He supposedly knows in advance what is going to happen from the first second to the last, but still acts surprised.
God makes Adam.
Adam eats the forbidden fruit.
God gets angry at Adam for eating the fruit.
He knew everything in advance, but still designed Adam so that he would eat the fruit. God is an idiot.
It also means that free will is complete rubbish.
TychoCelchu 1 month ago 4