Men Of Straw, an intro to the Fermanagh Mummers
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I'd also like to say that Joe, I admire your dedication to keeping the way you do it a true representation of the old style. You feel strongly about this. I also admire Jim's style, who borrows and mixes ideas together into something new. In a way, this is true to the tradition as well, as people always innovated and adopted new motifs and ideas. there's a place for us all.
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I'm going t weigh in on this, as I know several of the figures involved, including Joe and Jim. Perhaps Joe is right in saying that this is not the pure mumming tradition as such, but at all times the tradition is evolving and being influenced by outside forces. Joe, you yourself linked to a video on youtube of a Co. Clare performance, which is clearly a hybrid of wrenboys and mummers, and yet is perfectly traditional. It's important that the customs stay alive, and are part of current tradition
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@celticways That is true. Their straw work is very good. Our 'Sidhe Gaoithe' group meet once a year to make the Strawboy costumes here in Sligo. When we run short a Ballintogher man Ted Kelly helps us out. He is a master craftsman with much of his work on show in the Museum of Country Life in Co Mayo — where we perform the Mummer play at Christmas. In fact they had a genuine traditional Strawboy costume on display there the last time I visited.
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@duncaolog I reckon Straw Boys and Mummers both came from other traditions, just as the USA Trick Or Treat, now exported all over Europe is an extremely watered down tradition from the Scottish Guisers which was something else before that. Traditions are never stable, always evolving, changing, merging, splitting up. Wrote down is a moment of time and not a tradition itself. To me tradition is like whispering a message around a bus, the last person hears something very different to the first
“Never make a tradition or break a tradition”. There are three distinct and separate traditions in Irish folk drama: Mummers, Strawboys and Wrenboys. Aughakillymaude Mummers are, with respect, a collection of everything and nothing. Their shows are very well produced but should be represented as just that: a show BASED on folk customs.
duncaolog 1 year ago
@duncaolog I've always had the impression that Jim's idea was to present shows based on folk drama traditions. Though, I think he started with an orally passed down mumming script that probably came in with the planters. I tend to view traditions on a sean nos level so I get quite confused seeing distinct and tradition in the same sentence. Someone at some time came up with the Mummer, Strawboys and Wrenboy names, but I'm sure it was never the actual players that invented those names.
celticways 1 year ago
@celticways I don't like to be critical of the Aughakillymaude group as I know them very well and indeed travelled to Bulgaria and Sardinia with them. Perhaps it's sufficent to leave it that the shows should be, and in the future hopefully will be, presented as "based on folk tradition". It would make the ancestors very happy! :-)
duncaolog 1 year ago
@duncaolog What impresses me most there at Aughakillymaude is the passing on of strawcraft traditions which is getting too scarce.
celticways 1 year ago
Just to let you all know the full 24 minute version of this documentary can be found at youtube.com/watch?v=XxQ5BcY8feI
FeenishProductions 1 year ago
@FeenishProductions This is great news !! There was not an over 5 minutes facility on YouTube when this edited version went up. I feel this version is still ok for a quick view, but the 24 minutes is better if you have the time. Thanks for this :-)
celticways 1 year ago