The Truth About Homeopathy
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@frosted1030 Phenomenal testing, i.e. seeing if high dilutes have biological, biochmeical or physical effects, is the easiest kind of repeatable testing to do. There's been biochemical tests for over half century now. The basophil degranulation test that skeptics went beserk over when Benveniste did it, has been replicated sucessfully 24.times Just read some of the stupi commentary that slips through here to see the level of intelligene, of the people who don't get it.
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@GGGeoff I have a degree in homeopathy from Hahnemann College of Homeopathy in London. Most states however have no licensing req.'s of homeopaths. But the fat that Arizona does is further testimony to its effectiveness. I'e never treid it, but a dilute of caffeine can help you get to sleep, and a cup of coffee will calm down an ADHD kid.
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@Urammar Where do you get that its a legal contract? Randi's NEVER signed it. I asked him to sign it REPEATEDLY, and he refused. He's even admitted that he's never signed it, for anyone! For a skeptic you sure aren't being very skeptical of anything but what you don't want to believe.What's amazing is how typical you are. You're ust afraid of having to change mounts.
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@UnderManlac Nope, wrong again. Homeopathy has outperformed allopathy in everything you mention. In fact, the greatest medical achievement of all time was homeopathic, the smallpox vaccine, the use of similitude from the cowpox serum to treat a simlar disease in humans, distinct from variolation. The word homeopathy doesn't mean "dilution," it means "similar sufering." Conventional medicine is full of uncut homeopathic examples, such as anti-venoms, ADHD meds & inoculations.
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@DafyddCymraeg Oh really? Well, where the peer reviewed published report in an unbiased prestigious journal? Where is any published report? Just where do i ind this wonerul piece of work in the literature? Since Poitevin did the 1st trial in the '80s to 2007, there have been 24 successful replications of the basophil degranulation test rep'd in the literature. Where is the BBC test pub'd? Cite please! Google Ennis' "Basophil models of homeopathy: a sceptical view."
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@Bandershot Homeopathic studies published in peer-reviewed journals??? Care to elaborate on the name of those peer-reviewed journals, so I can critique them???
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in the old days, before we had an FDA to test the validity of medical care, we had tar and feathers, a homeopathic cure for quackery, since hillery clinton banned using science to test medicine over fifteen years ago... I think we should go back to homeopathy.
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@Bandershot Yep. The polio vaccine was effective. It has wiped out the polio virus. There is not one case in the modern countries of a polio outbreak.
Tuberculosis is no longer a threat to anyone who has access to the vaccine. The disease used to kill an enormous amount of people until the vaccine was discovered.
Homeopathy can not claim any curative results in these cases.
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@Bandershot Both the applicant and the Randi foundation sign a legal contract that both parties agree is fair. The applicant is encouraged to design the test themselves.
"All tests are videotaped and stored. You will be asked to state that the protocol is fair prior to the test. You will be asked to state it again afterward. If you do not feel that the protocol is fair beforehand, you are not obligated to continue the test."
If you suspect one of the cases to be biased, ask for copy o the tape
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If homeopathy requires a medical degree, where is your degree from and what year was it obtained?
1. So then you admit that a homeopathic solution for insomnia is caffeine right?
2. I don't deny that high dosages of a substance can have an aggravating effect. If I drink a pot of coffee, sleeping is going to be much harder to do. What I deny is that something that has been diluted past 23X has anything left in it.
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even if, u could find the active substance in a homeopathic remedy, how would that prove that it works?
I mean doesn't it also need to actually consistently cure more people than placebo's do?
LovaBoij 10 months ago 5
@Bandershot
Alright, this discussion has grown beyond tiresome. I could ask you a FOURTH time to summarize the science behind homeopathy in your own words, but at this point its clear you have no intention of answering and you've proven my point anyhow.
Regardless of what you say, I will still think you're a charlatan. Likewise, regardless of what I say, you will consider me a "paid shill" and an "astroturfer." I'm flattered you consider my skepticism to be on a professional level.
entyrion 1 year ago 5