Testing Joseph Smith as a prophet

Jeff Durbin speaking on God's test of a prophet.

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[mormonanswerman]

The only test I need is to pray and get answers and confirmation by the gift of the Holy Ghost. James 1:5.

Any other test is a man's test, and is fallible. This man doesn't know what the Holy Ghost can teach.

[wheepusdurbin]

James 1:5 is not about getting "answers" through prayer. Read carefully. James says if any of you lacks "wisdom". Wisdom is "skill in LIVING" not "answers". Read Jeremiah 17:9, it says that mans heart is deceitful above all things.  You can not trust your heart. That is a subjective and fallable test. It is in fact the absoloutely wrong way to test a prophet. God never gave that test of a prophet. Read Deut. 13:1-4 and 18:20-22. Those are God's tests. You should give it a try...

[mormonanswerman]

"James says if any of you lacks "wisdom". Wisdom is "skill in LIVING" not "answers". "

James says this: "If any of you lack wisdom, Let him ask of God."

When you ASK, you are expecting an ANSWER. ASK, ANSWER. No getting around it.

James 1:5 IS about asking and getting answers, and the Bible is saying to DO IT.

[wheepusdurbin]

Ask for "what"? Wisdom is "skill in living"... and Mormonanswerman... your response holds no water. Notice you didn't answer the context. You need to pay attention to context. By the way, what happens after this part of the story is the most important. What I am talking about is the numerous first vision accounts. If even Joseph couldn't get it right....And..... if we are going to dialogue... you need to actually respond to the video.. ie.. the false prophecies of Joseph Smith...

[justcary]

The bible condemns Joseph Smith as a false prophet. That is a Christians final authoritative word. Anything outside of that leads to false doctrine. Read Deut.13 1-4, and 18:20-22

[deconomou]

D&C 84:1-5 states that the city of New Jerusalem would be built in Western Missouri in THIS (JS') GENERATION.

Can any Mormon out there show me New Jerusalem that was built in Joseph Smith's generation or ANY generation for that?

Didn't think so.

Joseph Smith is a FALSE PROPHET! Deut 18:21,22

[wheepusdurbin]

@otmjake Jake, you are bringing up a classic Mormon apologetic. Most Mormons that I know of that bring it up have never even read the passage Jesus was quoting from. Have you? I would hope that you have before bringing it up as a challenge. I'm not sure anyone would want "I said ye are gods" applied to them after reading what Jesus was quoting from and how he was applying it to the unrighteous judges before Him.The passage is about unrighteous judges. Exegesis is important. Check it out.

[otmjake]

@wheepusdurbin Does the BIBLE not teach that we are all Gods wheepusdurbin? Look it up you might be impressed to find it does!......if you cant find it....look harder and then if you still cant find it you need to read the bible more! let me know what you find!

[Defendthefaithorg]

@familyradiolistener Harold Camping is a false prophet and false teacher.

[Aiyuri100]

It's true the church is wrong because of these reasons. God wouldn't have a prophet teaching false prophecies. He's a liar. :/

[kurosh771]

mormons are abusing the name of jesus, joseph smith was sharlatan.

[stephennewman71]

whats really crazy , i researched that most people on you tube that say they were mormon and left because all this crazy stuff , the were never mormon !

[stephennewman71]

This guy is nuts ! you can if mormons are in a cult how come they dont ask anything but your devotion to Jesus Christ !

[bballcardcollector09]

harld camping has been wrong already he claimed the end at 9/6/94 now he is claiming 2011. forget that dude.

[Victoreza]

Need to study more. Big time.

[UShistoryX2]

It has "collapsed?" then why are millions of us still going to Church? Thousands on Missions, thousands getting baptized? Huh... I don't think you know what collapsed means...