Probably a scam : Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor delft university

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Probably a scam : Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor presentation at the delft university in the netherlands

Probably hidden batteries are used.

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[dieselphiend]

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

[nem3sics]

there are people that keep destroying the truth even here on youtube, people that comment in an evil way all that can free the human race, people that instead of helping their own children, they want to kill them. something is going on with them, something that is related to their souls more than their brains

[nem3sics]

@LiamXaoh yes but the magnet can attract without any force impressed, it keeps havin its power, this is what i meant, if u underline it because of the conservation i'm not braking any law with my last statement, so...in theory it's proved, i'll tell u in the next weeks if it works, the only way to know the truth is to try it...i need to find all the elements to build the experiment, bb

[LiamXaoh]

@nem3sics -No. A spring compresses then expands. A two time action. Two magnets do the same.

[nem3sics]

@LiamXaoh why not? the spring has just a one time action, a magnet keep repelling or attracting, the force required to keep pushing, must be inside the bolt that fixes the stator as a material resistance (steel for example), the energy of repelling that starts from the stator, will be divided in 2 parts, one part will rotate the rotor and the other part on the bolt that fixes the rotor. the forces at the end must be = 0

[LiamXaoh]

@nem3sics - no. You last statement makes no scientific sense. The force that causes to magnets to repel is exactly the same force (not just the amount but the same cause) as the one that has to be overcome to get the magnets in a position to repel.

It helps to think of the two magnets as a spring. Compress the spring and release it. That is all that happens with magnetic motors. Everything else is irrelevant.

[nem3sics]

@LiamXaoh you probably didn't get my point or understood what i'm saying, i am very well aware of the conservation law, there are 2 different forces: the magnetic one and the one that we need to put the magnet back to the same position. if u imagine the rotor and the stator fixed at a distance which they keep repelling eachother, with the right angle of the stator and a rational disposition of the magnetic field in the rotor, something will happen, the force required must be inside the material

[LiamXaoh]

@nem3sics - No it won't work. You have missed the point entirely. You are confusing the force that a magnetic field causes with resistive force a a fixed bolt. They are not the same nor are they relevant. You are confused by semantics.

At least try to answer my question: "Once a magnet has been repelled (and releases a force) how much force is required to put the magnet back to the same position to repel again?"

Understand this and you'll understand the impossibility of magnetic motors.

[nem3sics]

@LiamXaoh please correct me if i understood it wrong, but i studied that bolts have both shear resistance and normal resistance, and it depends on what kind of steel we're using,but they can resist a lot, so that's the force that closes the circle of conservation,rotor and stator r fixed at a distance lower than the repelling distance, with an angle that can help the spinning,the initial force could be in the materials..the theory could find a way,i don't know if this can really work,i'll try it

[LiamXaoh]

@nem3sics - I don't understand what you're saying. Once a magnet has been repelled (and releases a force) how much force is required to put the magnet back to the same position to repel again?

[nem3sics]

@LiamXaoh what if the force that comes from repelling would be opposed by something fixed, i can't describe it better, but the concept that i want to say is that the material resistance of a bolt for exapmle would push the 2 repelling magnets and they are forced to repell each other, and if the fixed one we call it stator as you said and the spinning one the rotor, theoretically we won't brake any law of conservation, it's not perpetual but could be for a longer time, sorry for my english

[LiamXaoh]

@nem3sics - Part 2. the power from an electric motor is thus derived from the external current. Magnetic motors have nothing that changes the fields to produce continuous cyclic opposing and attracting forces. As the force required to bring two magnets into a position to repel is exactly the same force as that which will be released when they do repel there is no possible net positive output.

Go to talk to any physics teacher or electrical engineer & you'll get the same reasoning. Get it?