Hakkucho Kata
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I watched the "Kusano performing Hakucho" vid which you can find on Youtube and these of a few notable differences, albeit the pattern is the same. (ie, Matayoshi Sensie performs his nuki-te strikes in conjunction with which ever leg is forward in neko-dachi,,, while Kusano performs this nuki-te opposite side of the foot in front) Why would this be? Shinpo sensei also seems slightly hesitates at the end of the kata as if he's not sure how to yame for this one.
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I have the whole 1 hour video to this, if any interest I'll post it.
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fantastic. master yamashita taught us this kata a few years ago at a seminar (and he learned it not from nakazato sensie, he said, but from matayoshi sensei). i have to admit i haven't been practicing it so forgot most of it! of course, the long forms are widely available, but this one is so nice. thanks for posting!
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Thanks, he's good !
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"Chinese secrets"China's long history of unrest led to many revolutionaries and war,many secret societies sprung from this and the martial arts was their atomic bomb of the time,it's no surprise many secrets were kept,even to this day,many still are.I believe some Okinawans such as Chatan Yara,Kanga"Tōde" Sakugawa,Shinko Matayoshi and others
were trusted partly because of what went on in China at the time.See Salvatore Canzonieri's work for more details.
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farorin," okinawans had there own art to fill in the void",agreed,they were closer to the Chinese in many respects than they were their Japanese occupiers,it's in their katas,Cantonese "Saam Jin"三戰,is "Sanchin",or "Three Battles".
From Shaolin's "Five Ancestors Fist"
watch?v=Yla9j0AangU&feature=re
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zachariahz,out of the vast amounts of CMA systems,Hakka is just a small fraction.Where are the secrets?Some of the answer is in what trickled down into some forms of Karate,no need for a grandfather to show his toddler that he's...
"superior"
The child's parents know
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I've heard the old "Chinese" secrets thing for years from CMA people...where are these Chinese secrets? Answer: they don't exist, like any art Chinese styles also started somewhere and went somewhere else., nothing exists in a vaccuum...the claim of "lost secret, hidden" techniques from CMA practitioners just comes form people who don't know anything about Karate and wish to make their skills look superior.
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Thats a beautiful form. And to the people below saying that thingsgotlost during the tranferance from china to okinawa or japan... or whatever you said.... Granted thats probably true, but what was brought over was still a lot, and the okinawans had there own art to fill in the void and there own intelligence and spirit.
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I thought that Matayoshi was still alive, but I read in Okinawan Karate by Mark Bishop that he passed away back in '97
who was matayoshi's shorin ryu sensei? i know his kobudo comes from his father
kempobrad 4 years ago
I'm not sure he had a Shorin-ryu teacher. The form in the video comes from the Chinese tea merchant Go Kenki. He was a Crane stylist and that's where I believe most of Matayoshi's open hand forms come from. Check out the form Okaku (The Great Crane) which also came from Go Kenki.
Shooter16a2 4 years ago
thanks shooter. i knew these weren't shorin ryu kata, but i couldve swore i read somewhere that he practiced shorin ryu as well as kobudo, and kung fu (which i had no idea he practiced until now)
kempobrad 4 years ago
I did some research and found that he studied some Shorin-ryu from Kyan Chotoku, Goju-ryu from Seiko Higa, and Crane studies from Go Kenki.
His original teacher was his father starting around age 4. I presume this is where he picked up some of his othr Kung-Fu kata.
Shooter16a2 4 years ago
The name of this kata is Okaku, too. Thanks for posting it.
shorinkarate 4 years ago
Okaku is already on YouTube and performed by Matayoshi. The two are different but very similar.
Shooter16a2 4 years ago