Mormon Apostle Admitting Book of Mormon Is Not Historical

Finally, or maybe not something good? LINK: http://lds.org/churchmagazines/LI_2010_11_18___09291_000_021.pdf
Not a historical book - because it never happened.... they are beginning to realise it, and have to gradually go over to the point were they admit that it is fantasy...

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[42apostate]

@HungGarEarthBender

WELL??

[Lexi04121]

none of you have read the book of mormon. or prayed so how can you disprove it! when you dont know anything.

[42apostate]

@johnjerdon

Yes, I DO agree. In fact I have long proposed that the LDS missionary programis a FAILED program. I have suggested, at many LDS sites including FAIR LDS.ORG, that sending out postcard invitations to non membs would be much more efficient than sending 50 to 60 thousands sales men and women, who MAY convert 2 or 3 over the 2 year mission--and then, adding salt to the wound, having 75% of those converts drifting away within 2 years.

Wasn't the subject,"attacking..."?

[42apostate]

@johnjerdon

If you fathered a child by another man's wife, would YOU want little rug-rats around as evidence of your promiscuity? I think not--if there were an alternative available.

"They" didn't want to "out populate" the community. That idea was merely a RUSE, an excuse used to SELL Joe's polygamy.

If all of history is false, why attempt to sell your particular take on history as the only true history? YOUR view of it would, according to you, be equally "prejudiced", no?

[johnjerdon]

@42apostate You are making the same point I made. I pointed out MY own observation of their scriptures I agree with your logic here because according the the LDS' own 11th Article of Faith - We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may...missionaries violate the tenet of their own religion. A Visitors Welcome sign should suffice don't you think?

[johnjerdon]

@42apostate No, there were a handful of his children born that did not survive infancy, so they adopted. It is illogical in my mind that if he fathered other children as his enemies suggest that they would have aborted them all under some Herodian-like mandate. IF they wanted to out populate the rest of the community, so they could take over then why would they abort their offspring?! And YES, most of written history is false and manipulated according to the prejudices of the writer.

[42apostate]

@johnjerdon

I agree that their own scriptures condemn Mormonism, NOT THEM as individuals.

Again, how is pointing out those LDS scriptures to them, in any way, considered an "

attack" on individual Mormons? If that were true, then every Mormon missionary (I was one) is "attacking" Christian religions (and others) by merely pointing out Christian scripture that "condemns" THEM (according to the LDS POV).

Again. What exactly is our disagreement here??

[42apostate]

@johnjerdon

There is no "if" about it. Joe DID teach PM as a command, and, in fact, taught (along with other leaders), that one could not attain "exaltation without it.

3 children with Emma is "many"?

Abortions were taking place in those days. So where's the evidence that some of those women DIDN'T get pregnant?

"Rumor"? By that logic we can eliminate ALL world history--since we weren't there to witness it.

What exactly is our disagreement here??--judging Mormonism?

[johnjerdon]

@42apostate IF Joseph taught that plural marriage was commanded of God then why didn't Emma & Joseph III institute it in the doctrines of the RLDS Church? Joseph's many children with Emma were proof of his fertility, yet somehow 33 other women became never got pregnant. Joseph also had men sealed to him. Why? Find out here: marvelousworkandawonder(dot)co­m/js/download/MormonPolygamyMW­AW.pdf why you/we should judge not. Unless we witness something with our own eyes it is only rumor.

[johnjerdon]

@42apostate As I said, I don't have to condemn them, their scriptures already do. If I were attacking, I would/could have listed much more than that.