Inside D&D 4e

from the Loading Ready Run crew. They scored a fan after this.

Category:

Gaming

Tags:

• D&D
• 4e
• Dungeons
• Dragons

[mtflannery89]

You're obviously an idiot. D&D 4ED has a more efficient rules system so that it can be played faster pace. Also, if you are looking for complexity and deep immersion there are way more character options than any other edition.

[adamx20]

@mtflannery89 It's not my video and no offence intended but you sir are obviously an idiot. The video is a parody, and I think it's funny so I asked if I could post it to YouTube.

[thecookiethieves]

This is the best

[rual40]

@mtflannery89 no, 4th is a quick and easy way to play, you want immersion and complexity, try 3.5 or better yet, my 3.5 overhaul rule set, making the game seriously complex and immersive (but played at a glacial pace)

[kristofferjo]

I still wont play 4.0 :p

[TheInsaneSchoolchild]

@androkguz I agree. I just get kinda "Grr YOUR WRONG IM WRIGHT LOLOL" sometimes.

Just 4e was such a jarring dash from its originals.

[androkguz]

@androkguz The 3 things CANNOT be satisfied at the same time, and 4E sacrifices the simulationist side in favor of the best for gamist and narrativist in its history. You clearly are a simulationist since you want rules that perfectly describe every detail of every monster and also need every abstraction spelled out for you as with the martial dailies and the recharge rolls.

[androkguz]

@TheInsaneSchoolchil It's said that there's 3 main things people look for RPGs. Depending on what they look for, some people could be called gamist, narrativist or simulationist. The gamist looks for a game that is a fair challenge of the mind and where they have fun. The narrativist looks for an interesting story, one to be remembered. The simulationist, on the other hand, wants a representation of what real life would be.

[TheInsaneSchoolchild]

@androkguz

The thing is playing an archlich can be fun and interesting. Sure it can be a hassle, but its so cool.

There are roleplay possibilities AND cool powers.

Plus I can simply: NOT use the abilities (Which is a lie, I would summon a squeleton just to save myself a few hits.) at the very worst.

And no. There are like? 3 abilities?

[androkguz]

@TheInsaneSchoolchild You seriously don't get the point. First, as a PC, you're never an archlich. That kind of crap is part of the reason 3.5 is so broken. Then, as a DM, you simply dont need the monster stats to tell you that the lich can kill flowers with a touch, and summon a rat squeleton once per day, and the other 20+ imaginable abilities it would have that you would never need to use in a fight.

[Stairc]

@TheInsaneSchoolchild If the enemy is standing still and not trying to defend yourself, you're golden. However, trying to precisely sever someone's tendons without getting hit in the process and getting through ARMOR while doing it and they're trying to dodge is a wee bit harder. I certainly agree though that many Daily powers make more or less sense than others. They made a lot of powers, some won't be as well conceived. But some powers like that are not evidence that the whole system is unreal

[TheInsaneSchoolchild]

@Stairc AKA Dragonball Z BS.

Let me ask again: It takes GODLIKE skill to cut tendons once per day? Do athletes work like that?

I can cut tendons a hundred times per day. Its not hard. Grab a knife and stab the wound. I understand you would get tired after a while, but it doesn't end up working like that. We are not talking about "You can Do an extra 1D6 damage ith your attacks, but after 3 rounds of doing so you get tired condition". Its " I stab wound once".

[TheInsaneSchoolchild]

@Stairc

So why don't they just emediatly crush you? Like i would expect the god of Undeath to just kill you in one hit. Period. Then reanimate you and have you fight your allies. Oh right "Balance" because if the god had actual godlike powers then it wouldn't be "fun". Just being within a 10 mile raduis of a god of undeath would blow you into smithereens and turn you into a ghast.

And I knew you would answer "Rituals". So tell me, what CAN my archmage do with rituals?