Power Save 1200 Demonstration

See what the Power Save 1200 can do for you!

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[ProTechPlumbing]

Watts are one thing and volt-amps are another. Any electrician that doesn't know the difference needs to go back to school.

Power factor correction is indeed old.....for commercial users. It has been used for years to avoid poor PF fees, not KWA reduction. Again, it is not for KWA reduction, it is for Penalty avoidance.

And yes, I am saying that PF correction will do nothing to reduce KWA consumption. I challenge anyone to provide a credible source that states otherwise.

[uvman707]

Power Save is not needed when you have appliances that are Energy Star compliant. They have power factor correction devices already built in them.

Power Save is not worth the money for the homeowners.

End of discussion.

[markbeiser]

Electrical meters measure consumption in watts, not amps.

watts = amps x volts x power factor

This device lowers the amps, but it raises the power factor in proportion, so the watts consumed remains the same.

Since the watts consumed remains the same, the heat generated by the motor is exactly the same.

This device is a scam.

[Dynetric]

This is a scam. They scam you by showing a reduction in amps. That's not power, it's current....different things with AC. This is just BS. Notice he uses an unloaded motor as a load - totally unrealistic. An unloaded motor is an inductor, not a load. It has a low power factor which the capacitors in the box increase. However, this does not save energy or increase efficiency in any way. Don't be confused by current levels. That means nothing. Power is the key and it won't change that.

[uvman707]

@drifterspe Tell me you are an industrial user, not a homeowner.

[MSBWilson]

There are several things wrong with this demonstration:

1. if you leave the power saver attached and turn the load off, the current still flows through the power saver.

2. Energy meters measure watts, not amps.

3. For AC current, watts=volts x amps x power factor

4. The power saver reduces the amps and increases the power factor in the same proportion, the net result is no actual change to the watts that you pay for.

Conclusion: don't waste your money because it won't save you 1c!

[xdtrv6]

@alexmiteecs

My apologies, you are correct, Real Power is in W, however we pay for the units of power, I should have taken more care in the wording.

[uvman707]

@OBXSOLWIND Amperage and watts are not the same. Amperage is the rate of flow to the load. Wattage is calculated by multiplying voltage times amperes. The electric meter on your house only measure in watts used, not current. If you have a home with a swimming pool and pump running all the time. The power save will not make any difference on the homeowners electric bill.

[uvman707]

@alexmiteecs The power save 1200 is not my invention. I have exposed to what the Power Save 1200 consist of. I work in the calibration lab in the Boston, MA area. I would be glad to drop by and we would be in agreement in AC circuits. My work is in electronics.

[uvman707]

@alexmiteecs I am not scamming this item. I am explaining the differences between large industrial users and homeowner. Their electric metering are different between two of these users. The power saving device can make a real difference in savings from power factor penalties for industrial users. It offers no savings to the homeowners as their metering only measures in kilowatthours, not varhours.

[alexmiteecs]

@xdtrv6 I would add a small correction to your statement. Mainly that real power has units of W or kW, not kWh (this is a unit of energy). Same for apparent power. Nevertheless, you are correct in that this is a scam.