Another Reason To Say No To Ethanol

I posted this early last year. Now watch this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQ95FF8moI8

I talk about economic reasons ethanol is no good. One thing I didn't mention: as the price of corn changes the price of other crops, especially wheat, change with it. A farmer won't grow wheat if he/she can earn more money by planting corn. If there is less wheat available because farmers aren't planting it, the price of wheat and anything made from it goes up.

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[magprob]

Goose, before you go on spreading the big oil companies bullshit, read Alcohol Can Be A Gas by David Blume. Then talk to me.

[goose1077]

It's economics. I haven't read anything put out by oil companies.

[magprob]

Goose, may I slap the shit out of you? You are the dumbest bastard I have ever had the misfortune of stumbling upon.

[goose1077]

Your comment lacks any substance. Explain what view you disagree with and why.

[Rusty1220]

@johnathonmelby Wow I have 165,000 miles on engine with original fuel pump, original injectors, no work done on engine other than replaced plugs at 100,000 miles athough the old plugs looked fine. Checked cyclinder compression when I changed plugs, compression was still good as new engine. Engine does not use any extra oil. If it goes another 5 years then I will have 330,000 miles on engine and I will most likely buy new truck by then just because I have gotten tired of the old one.

[johnathonmelby]

@Rusty1220 you have to do much more than just that box such as the fuel pump beacuse e85 burns faster, fuel rail cause it has to be stainless steal ethenol erodes them away,the enjectors have to be changed,fuel identifyer,all your intake and exaust valves need to be changed cause normal gas doesnt corrode away, plus the cylinder heads too!!! it takes more than 5 years to blow an engine one day you will be driving and there she goes!!blown up

[Rusty1220]

Have a 14 year old ridding lawn mover always used 10% ethanol gasoline in it. Never ever had to work on engine or fuel system. Never had any fuel leaks. Engine still runs like new.

[Rusty1220]

While I am thinking about it, I also have a walk behind brush hog that I have used for 16 years. I have always used the 10% ethanol gasoline in it. I had it running yesterday also. And I have never had to do anything to its carbrator or fuel lines and never had any fuel leaks.

[Rusty1220]

I have 2005 Arctic Cat ATV been using the 10% ethanol gasoline in it for almost 6 years. No carbrator trouble or gaskets leaks. It still runs great. 10% ethanol Gas does set in then tank all winter when not in use.  I do not understand why these other people are claiming to have problems.

[Rusty1220]

@Rusty1220 Dad was mechanic in days before ethanol was used in gasoilne. Every Spring he had about 40 or 50 lawn movers brought to him that would not start because old gasoline has sat in them all winter or longer and had caused varnish to clog floats, or needle valves. Also some carbs would have corosion in them due to water in fuel. Again this was before 10% ethanol used in gas supplies. I would recommed that all mowers use fuel stabilizer in gas prior to storing for winter.

[Rusty1220]

@johnathonmelby I been using E 85 evey day in my truck for around 5 years no problem at all. Using ethanol conversion box so I am getting same mileage as plane old gasoline. Also have old cub cadet tractor with carburator that had been setting unstarted for at least 1 1/2 years with 10% ethanol, 90% gasoline in the tank. Tractor also had fuel stablizer in it when last parked. Yesterday it started on the second crank of the starter and ran fine. No leaks in lines or carb, ran like new.

[johnathonmelby]

@Rusty1220 ok the only thing ethenol is good for is cars any other engine no cause you will literaly burn up fuel lines in your atv snowmobile ect. small engine. then your floats in the carbs get eaten away then the carb is leaken all over the place remember you still have 90% gas so if your leaking everywhere how is that good??? ethenol also make 20% less gas millage so if you average it out you have to spend more to get less milage

[mikehanoo33]

The real ecological nightmare is industrial agriculture. Switching to organic-style crop rotation will cut energy use on farms by a third or more: no more petroleum-based herbicides, pesticides, or chemical fertilizers. Fertilizer needs can be served either by applying the byproducts left over from the alcohol manufacturing process directly to the soil, or by first running the byproducts through animals as feed.

[switchgrassfuel]

quit blaming Ethanol for all of your problems. you act like the corn just disappear when you make fuel out of it, it doesn't they can still use it in livestock food. none of it goes to wast at all. so quit crying like a baby. and further more ethanol is cheaper than gas if you look at production prices only with no subsidy going to Ethanol or gas companies. I am sick of Idiots like you that don't have a clue. read my user name if you wonder how much i follow the the ethanol industry.