Fields Of Athenry

From the Famine to the Present

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[tigergambit]

A great song in an Irish tradition, but I do wonder whether some people on here understand the least little thing about Irish history. Two questions:

1. Why does the Ulster (as opposed to the Northern Ireland) flag bear the red (bloody) hand as its central symbol?

2. When was Ulster ever a part of a United Ireland except under English rule?

[Barrymac1916]

@tigergambit The Red Hand of Ulster is the official seal of the O'Neill family. It is believed to originate from a mythical tale wherein two chieftains were racing across a stretch of water in a bid to be the first to reach the land and claim it as his own. Realising his foe would touch the land first, one chieftain cut off his hand and threw it onto the shore, thereby claiming the land before his adversary reached it. Your point is?

[Barrymac1916]

@tigergambit Secondly your assertion that only the English can unite Ireland is naive. A "United Ireland" is an Ireland under self determination. We don't always agree among ourselves and we never have, but has Britain? Are the Scottish and Welsh happy with being governed by a foreign country? Only 6 of the 9 counties of Ulster are under British rule, a state gerrrymandered in the 1920's to maximise the Pro-union vote of the planters, A precarious situation as demographics have changed

[Xander1366]

Can anyone tell me who is singing this?

[Barrymac1916]

@Xander1366 Charlie and the Bhoys live in the Barrowlands

[SirGallagher]

@Barrymac1916 saw them live in Cork ! brilliant !!!!

[MegaDeRoX]

why dislike such a great song like this???

im from Croatia and i like alot Irish songs, they are my favourites songs !!!

[WelshFanaticxoxo]

I love this version.

[shannonMC884]

to be honest yes i realli like this song but im from turlough a rival of athenry in hurling and camogie so have 2 say scrp the athenry part HON TURLOUGH!!

[jpg22222]

great song politics is so so but i can understand it totally we all would wuldnt we! anyway up the hoops

[SummerDays125]

Im from Athenry :') <3 best place taa be !!!! UP THE IRISH ! xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

[Irish32United]

Éire aontaithe agus saor in aisce do gach uair amháin agus ina n-aonar le hAlban agus na Breataine Bige .ag fuck an Béarla! TIOCFAIDH AR LA.!!

(Ireland united and free once and for all alone with scotland and wales. fuck the english . OUR DAY WILL COME ) IRA ;)

[tigergambit]

@stjohnspoint Why let history get in the way of a bit of thuggery, thievery and intimidation?

PIRA were in it for themselves when it came down to it - like the USSR they negotiated a "peace" when they saw the writing on the wall, but they and their successors are still running their rackets today.

[tigergambit]

@Barrymac1916 I think the other three would probably be quite happy to rejoin with the 6 at the moment - the Republic is sinking fast and as you say the UK looks likely to fragment - give us back our lost 3 counties. What really bugs me is all this shite about "re-unification" - how can you re-unify something which was never unified in the first place? as I said, Shite.

[tigergambit]

@jmsphelan Nice story, but historically innacurate. Scotland was known as Caledonia by the Romans. It became Scotland in the 700/800s when it was conquered by the Scots - a tribe from Ulster under Dalriada and others. The original inhabitants of Caledonia were the Picts.