Thanks for uploading this series - I've just listened to the entire set. I liked how in one video you refer to WT answers as "roundabout lawyer talk." You handled yourself really well.
OK, if HUMAN mistakes have happened and there is a record of this, WHY are these MEN given so much power to implement a disfellowshipping policy? MEN ruling over MEN, BECAUSE they make HUMAN mistakes. FACT All the other double speak, NOT FACT.
The biblical basis for disfellowshipping presented is NOT convincing in regard to presenting a VALID argument. Too read to much into a scripture to FIT THE DOCTRINE is NOT proof.
Who cares when he was baptized, he did not have ALL the information from ALL sides which is impossible to EVER, because as long as you live you CONTINUE to learn UNLESS you think you have the truth and disregard any information outside of the ORGANIZATION.
If ALL of your information comes from ONE source, how is this BALANCED? Of course your research is creating more questions!! Now they are questioning your intentions again, as they have been TRAINED to do.
To disfellowship someone is definitely a decision of the particular group of men you happen to be meeting with. NOT GOD'S I know from personal experience that I was disfellowshipped based on an agenda by the group of men who met with me one time. I begged them not to disfellowship me during that meeting. I told them I was repentent, but that didn't matter. They made a decision that affected my life. I have lost my parents, sibling, friends. Nice loving arrangement. I'm never going back!
Amazing how they can say you don't get baptized into an organization, 10 seconds after reading the baptism question that says they do.
When I used to defend the JW beliefs, I got as frustrated as this elder sounds because I was spending so much mental energy dealing with the contradictions. I felt real fear when someone was exposing them because I was coming close to exposing them to myself.
BUSTED! This JW Elder gave the unbiblical cursed baptismal formula of WTS >"And do you understand that your dedication in baptism identify you as one of Jehovah's witnesses in association with God's Spirit directed organization?"
And Steven answers - "I said yes, but I should of said no!" And the JW Elder laughs at him!
This unbiblical formula is in blatant rebellion against the Word of God Jesus Christ and His church. This is how WTS cult owns JWs by proxy and does what they will to them.
Thanks for uploading this series - I've just listened to the entire set. I liked how in one video you refer to WT answers as "roundabout lawyer talk." You handled yourself really well.
Truth4JWs 2 weeks ago
These Elders LOVE to hear themselves talk and how dare you try to interrupt.
What 2 on 1 hostility!
These are my toys and my house, if you don't want to play by my rules than you can leave.
You did great!
2 Cor 3:14-17
joeyjcc1 3 weeks ago
they are so not listening...they have their pre-programmed answeres already.
lilfreeway21 3 weeks ago in playlist More videos from crossquestions
OK, if HUMAN mistakes have happened and there is a record of this, WHY are these MEN given so much power to implement a disfellowshipping policy? MEN ruling over MEN, BECAUSE they make HUMAN mistakes. FACT All the other double speak, NOT FACT.
inspirediam 3 weeks ago
The biblical basis for disfellowshipping presented is NOT convincing in regard to presenting a VALID argument. Too read to much into a scripture to FIT THE DOCTRINE is NOT proof.
inspirediam 3 weeks ago
Who cares when he was baptized, he did not have ALL the information from ALL sides which is impossible to EVER, because as long as you live you CONTINUE to learn UNLESS you think you have the truth and disregard any information outside of the ORGANIZATION.
inspirediam 3 weeks ago
If ALL of your information comes from ONE source, how is this BALANCED? Of course your research is creating more questions!! Now they are questioning your intentions again, as they have been TRAINED to do.
inspirediam 3 weeks ago
To disfellowship someone is definitely a decision of the particular group of men you happen to be meeting with. NOT GOD'S I know from personal experience that I was disfellowshipped based on an agenda by the group of men who met with me one time. I begged them not to disfellowship me during that meeting. I told them I was repentent, but that didn't matter. They made a decision that affected my life. I have lost my parents, sibling, friends. Nice loving arrangement. I'm never going back!
deedeehoss 3 weeks ago
Amazing how they can say you don't get baptized into an organization, 10 seconds after reading the baptism question that says they do.
When I used to defend the JW beliefs, I got as frustrated as this elder sounds because I was spending so much mental energy dealing with the contradictions. I felt real fear when someone was exposing them because I was coming close to exposing them to myself.
thehappyfreethinker 3 weeks ago
BUSTED! This JW Elder gave the unbiblical cursed baptismal formula of WTS >"And do you understand that your dedication in baptism identify you as one of Jehovah's witnesses in association with God's Spirit directed organization?"
And Steven answers - "I said yes, but I should of said no!" And the JW Elder laughs at him!
This unbiblical formula is in blatant rebellion against the Word of God Jesus Christ and His church. This is how WTS cult owns JWs by proxy and does what they will to them.
barbsinclair 3 weeks ago