I looked into it before the forgery came up - I felt extremely open minded to even look that far. The forgery was so bad it should never have made it to a judge's eyes and I think Orly belongs in jail or an insane asylum.
I don't put it past our government to fake things like this, but seriously, is Obama worth faking a birth certificate? The right wingers must think very highly of him.
With the Birthers, the number one exhibit, the birth certificate was an obvious forgery, it said "mombasa, Kenya" when, at the time of Obama's birth, Mombasa was in Zanzibar.
It has been laughed out of every court where they have tried it.
My meter is more how important would it be if it were true - or how fun. And I've discovered truth in things that you've already said aren't true.
They say you see what you want to see and you hear what you want to hear.
I actually looked into Birthers, because I felt I can't criticize based on just an opinion, no matter how ridiculous something seems. I looked into Reptilians, too. That was more for the fun of it.
I examined carefully, particularly the 911 truth and Kennedy assassination.
The more bizarre the theory, though, the less examination something needs. I mean, look at Scientology. Mormonism. Astrology, Hollow Earth Theory.Reptilians. It goes on and on. Many of this stuff only deserves a cursory glance to see it's bullshit.
I'm not too familiar with that conspiracy - I looked a little and decided there's not enough there to come away with an answer - a lot like 9/11. But with 9/11 it's also because someone doesn't want us knowing the answers, whether it's because they screwed up or worse.
I think it's great to be a skeptic, but not to slam everything that sounds fantastic.
I believed Jim Garrison when I read On the Trail of the Assassins.
Then I read more about it, watched more documentaries, a great 3D computer simulation which shows that the trajectory of the "magic bullet" was not crooked at all, it was just that the original calculations were off, because they did not take into account differing seat hights, and I corrected my mistake of believing Garrison.
And you never make mistakes? Seems to me you are too sure of yourself too quickly, the way you slammed my statement. The truth is never exactly the same as the theory you start with, I hope you know that.
No, I have done my research. 911 truthers, birthers, JFK conspiracy theories(I believed that one for a while but I saw evidence that shows how the so called magic bullet wasnt magic at all) ghosts, god (once I believed, but now no more), phrenology,psychic powers,astrology, its all garbage. I have looked into it, weighed up all the relevant points, and came to a sensible conclusion. It is all baloney.
Awesome! American Samurai! Military in touch with the earth? Have the green REALLY be green!
cleanhomer 2 years ago
I looked into it before the forgery came up - I felt extremely open minded to even look that far. The forgery was so bad it should never have made it to a judge's eyes and I think Orly belongs in jail or an insane asylum.
I don't put it past our government to fake things like this, but seriously, is Obama worth faking a birth certificate? The right wingers must think very highly of him.
TheGiantRobot 2 years ago
With the Birthers, the number one exhibit, the birth certificate was an obvious forgery, it said "mombasa, Kenya" when, at the time of Obama's birth, Mombasa was in Zanzibar.
It has been laughed out of every court where they have tried it.
dangerouslytalented 2 years ago
My meter is more how important would it be if it were true - or how fun. And I've discovered truth in things that you've already said aren't true.
They say you see what you want to see and you hear what you want to hear.
I actually looked into Birthers, because I felt I can't criticize based on just an opinion, no matter how ridiculous something seems. I looked into Reptilians, too. That was more for the fun of it.
TheGiantRobot 2 years ago
I examined carefully, particularly the 911 truth and Kennedy assassination.
The more bizarre the theory, though, the less examination something needs. I mean, look at Scientology. Mormonism. Astrology, Hollow Earth Theory.Reptilians. It goes on and on. Many of this stuff only deserves a cursory glance to see it's bullshit.
dangerouslytalented 2 years ago
I'm not too familiar with that conspiracy - I looked a little and decided there's not enough there to come away with an answer - a lot like 9/11. But with 9/11 it's also because someone doesn't want us knowing the answers, whether it's because they screwed up or worse.
I think it's great to be a skeptic, but not to slam everything that sounds fantastic.
TheGiantRobot 2 years ago
Yes, I make mistakes.
I believed Jim Garrison when I read On the Trail of the Assassins.
Then I read more about it, watched more documentaries, a great 3D computer simulation which shows that the trajectory of the "magic bullet" was not crooked at all, it was just that the original calculations were off, because they did not take into account differing seat hights, and I corrected my mistake of believing Garrison.
dangerouslytalented 2 years ago
And you never make mistakes? Seems to me you are too sure of yourself too quickly, the way you slammed my statement. The truth is never exactly the same as the theory you start with, I hope you know that.
TheGiantRobot 2 years ago
No, I have done my research. 911 truthers, birthers, JFK conspiracy theories(I believed that one for a while but I saw evidence that shows how the so called magic bullet wasnt magic at all) ghosts, god (once I believed, but now no more), phrenology,psychic powers,astrology, its all garbage. I have looked into it, weighed up all the relevant points, and came to a sensible conclusion. It is all baloney.
dangerouslytalented 2 years ago
And you'll never know what it is or isn't with that attitude, not until and unless someone with authority tells you.
TheGiantRobot 2 years ago