www.scienceandnonduality.com/dvd.shtml Why would the ego want to get rid of itself? Excerpt from the Interview with Rupert Spira, Science and Nonduality Anthology Vol 1, 3 DVD set
I never thought I was the ego however more over it felt like the ego was attempting to take control. I honestly feel screwed up and not part of this world. Always felt like a stranger in the mist.
@eaglerock999 Want to hear something really crazy? I feel more awake when in deep sleep and I am aware of what is going on and I hope you are not meaning I am egotistical because I believe my ego has been knocked down from life's experiences and I see it as a good thing because it needed to be put into its place :)
@TEARDUCTER continued,every time you wake up,you have to remember who you are! but it happens so quickly you are not normally aware of it,there is a moment of pure consciousness when you dont know anything,except you are are awake,conscious.
That is who you are ,consciousness.
So you have to be aware that behind the idea of ego, is consciousness,like the wave on the Ocean,the wave cannot exist without Ocean, and is "unreal" it appears,then gone, but the Ocean continues to exist .
@TEARDUCTER Its very difficult for the mind/ego to be told it is not real,that is to be expected, you have to use a thorn to remove a thorn, once you have done that then you throw both thorns away.
You will suddenly realise the mind made sense of self, the"me" we all think we are is NOT who we are.
So you use the mind as a thorn to remove the idea that is "ego"( the thorn who believes it is who we are).
This has come about by conditioning,the lifes experience,thats all it is.
@eaglerock999 I think I know what you mean however it is extremely difficult for me to be this way in a 3d world unless I was in constant meditation. Thank you for explaining
@TEARDUCTER some thoughts come up on their own when not in conversation,you have to ask yourself come up from where? Consciousness or Being ,Self.
You are Being, the mysterious substratum of your IMAGINARY self.
Once you realise the mind made sense of self is unreal, because it is constantly changing,then Being becomes aware of itSelf, Self realisation. its always here, you are That.
It produces a feeling of peace and happiness, contentment.
That was an extremely beautiful, simplistic explanation of a life long ponderence. I have always called it, "the voice I have known since I was a child," because the essence of the voice had never changed, only the wisdom. Love and Gratitude from the very Best of Me!!!
@AvionDream yes I get the picture re conversation getting boring eg hello- how are you ? we are good so all is good end of conversation type of thing. So while it is correct that maybe we don't always think of common words because like much in life through habit it becomes automated after a time. However, like now for example I have to pause to think how to put what I know across to you just as the speaker does here and if he or I are not thinking of how to put our viewpoint across then
I never thought I was the ego however more over it felt like the ego was attempting to take control. I honestly feel screwed up and not part of this world. Always felt like a stranger in the mist.
TEARDUCTER 6 months ago
@TEARDUCTER If you feel aware whilst in deep sleep then there is nothing more to do,not that you did anything anyway.......there is no you.
Thing is, are you aware whilst in waking state and dream state?
Nothing wrong in ego,whats wrong is believing we ARE the ego.
eaglerock999 6 months ago
@eaglerock999 Want to hear something really crazy? I feel more awake when in deep sleep and I am aware of what is going on and I hope you are not meaning I am egotistical because I believe my ego has been knocked down from life's experiences and I see it as a good thing because it needed to be put into its place :)
TEARDUCTER 6 months ago
@TEARDUCTER continued,every time you wake up,you have to remember who you are! but it happens so quickly you are not normally aware of it,there is a moment of pure consciousness when you dont know anything,except you are are awake,conscious.
That is who you are ,consciousness.
So you have to be aware that behind the idea of ego, is consciousness,like the wave on the Ocean,the wave cannot exist without Ocean, and is "unreal" it appears,then gone, but the Ocean continues to exist .
eaglerock999 6 months ago
@TEARDUCTER Its very difficult for the mind/ego to be told it is not real,that is to be expected, you have to use a thorn to remove a thorn, once you have done that then you throw both thorns away.
You will suddenly realise the mind made sense of self, the"me" we all think we are is NOT who we are.
So you use the mind as a thorn to remove the idea that is "ego"( the thorn who believes it is who we are).
This has come about by conditioning,the lifes experience,thats all it is.
Memories.
eaglerock999 6 months ago
@eaglerock999 I think I know what you mean however it is extremely difficult for me to be this way in a 3d world unless I was in constant meditation. Thank you for explaining
TEARDUCTER 6 months ago
@TEARDUCTER some thoughts come up on their own when not in conversation,you have to ask yourself come up from where? Consciousness or Being ,Self.
You are Being, the mysterious substratum of your IMAGINARY self.
Once you realise the mind made sense of self is unreal, because it is constantly changing,then Being becomes aware of itSelf, Self realisation. its always here, you are That.
It produces a feeling of peace and happiness, contentment.
but what it is, remains a mystery.
eaglerock999 7 months ago
That was an extremely beautiful, simplistic explanation of a life long ponderence. I have always called it, "the voice I have known since I was a child," because the essence of the voice had never changed, only the wisdom. Love and Gratitude from the very Best of Me!!!
MorphingMindSet 1 year ago
@TEARDUCTER what is it that we are doing?
TEARDUCTER 1 year ago
@AvionDream yes I get the picture re conversation getting boring eg hello- how are you ? we are good so all is good end of conversation type of thing. So while it is correct that maybe we don't always think of common words because like much in life through habit it becomes automated after a time. However, like now for example I have to pause to think how to put what I know across to you just as the speaker does here and if he or I are not thinking of how to put our viewpoint across then
TEARDUCTER 1 year ago