TheLine Episode 2 Homosexuality: Choice or FITRAH?

We cross Politically Correct lines in or to discuss Homosexuality & Fitrah (natural human disposition).

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[dawahworks]

@MrSeattleNative You say "nature" (We say Allah) has dictated HUNGER facilitated by mouth, teeth, tongue, saliva, throat, stomach, acid, intestines, sphincter, rectum, & notification to defecate.

Explain what has nature given you to facilitate your same-sex attraction... The answer would be over-simple if I were to ask a heterosexual.

Whats your answer?

[akkiebrudda]

gay people are gay - thats an insult if you gays didnt realise

[ThePatientMuslim]

@MrSeattleNative poisonous, if we start to try and prove it otherwise would it even make a difference?

[ThePatientMuslim]

@MrSeattleNative And to believe that the world's most securest of countries would be so weak against internal attacks, that already alarms about one's own mind. As if U.S. would be so easily attacked from the inside, then why hasn't it happened after that and why is it that military wasn't allowed to take down those planes. It's like it was completely planned, nor did I give the example about homosexuality. It was an example about the truth, if something is bad for us or if something is

[MrSeattleNative]

@ThePatientMuslim Well, we can agree to disagree. You think that homosexuality is poisonous to society, and I think that religion is poisonous to society. To my knowledge, however, no wars have been fought and no extremist has ever flown a plane full of people into a building to proclaim their homosexuality. I hope that you understand my point.

[ThePatientMuslim]

@MrSeattleNative in sometimes it has been quite recognized, and held as "normal" thing to do.

We can shape our lives and live in which ways we like, truth is that if something isn't good for us and even if we try to prove it otherwise, it doesn't make it any different. If something is poisonous and we try to make up excuses that it isn't poisonous, that doesn't make it non-poisonous. I hope that you understood my point.

[ThePatientMuslim]

@MrSeattleNative Perhaps the only "proof" which you wish to read from my comments, is "a proof" which is completely shaped in the ways you like it to be. It's like if some people aren't happy with a religion, they start to change it and remove important parts of it.

Whilst the truest religion and true believers stick to what has been given to us, they're not the ones trying to reshape it as they recognize it as the truth. Homosexuality has always been around, sometimes it has been less so and

[MrSeattleNative]

@ThePatientMuslim I just have one question: How can you presume to know what it's like to be gay, let alone give others advice about it? And, if you point to a religious book, that does not answer my question.

[ThePatientMuslim]

@MrSeattleNative world and "joys" then there's nothing more. It's the end, there's nothing that someone would wish to get as he or she has had it all. There's nothing more in this life, this is the most saddest aspect of denying the truth.

But do as you wish, for you is your way and for me is mine. We shall find the truth at the end of our roads, even though many of us like to deny it.

[ThePatientMuslim]

@MrSeattleNative for he's or her's emotions/lusts, then he or she will do it and live accordingly to it. But even people such as yourself know that in such a way, there's no joy, there's no rejoice about anything. Most of the things become fake and motto such as "everyone lies" becomes popular, widely spread.

Each aspect of life becomes nothing and your living even when you're dead from the inside, spirituality is dead and materialism has taken the lead. When you've gotten all out from material

[ThePatientMuslim]

@MrSeattleNative great desperation, as people who wish but to amuse themselves they become tired of things. When they've "tested out" everything that there is, then there's no more things that this person wishes to do. Thus some of them come to end their lives and so on.

Comfort for the weak is when you prefer to live a life in a "dreamworld" in which everything is permitted, nothing is prohibited nor is there anything that you shouldn't or couldn't do.

If a person wishes to live as a slave

[ThePatientMuslim]

@MrSeattleNative I can totally agree with you on that one. As blind faith isn't supported, (in Islam) nor does it lead to anywhere but into humiliation and destruction.

Whilst if a person likes to deny the truth, misguide and beguile to him/herself because they only wish to amuse themselves with the things that exist in this materialistic, easily deceiving life and a sad part of the truth is that those who claim to be happy indeed aren't happy. There are times in which these people fall into