@azmildman Someone who actually looks past the hype the deliberately and strategically divides people, yet doesn't ever touch the surface & root cause of the issue. And who says intelligent debate doesn't occur on-line! When you count the amount of pregnant women who do this it's a drop in a bucket, or maybe a sea compared to the hundreds of thousands of "undocumented" immigrants from all over the world. who get hired by big & small businesses-that is the root issue
Ask yourself, if you were a pregnant woman about to go into labor any day (moment) and you are really ready to give birth. Would you choose that time to go out and run across a desert in that condition? NO, so they have an agenda in coming here then. It isn't a coincidence that it happened at that time in their lives. If you ever saw a "drop house" where most of them live when they first come here you would think the rats comment was appropriate. He is being framed as being angry and intolerant
@1pocho3000 I agree that we need to get rid of fat cat agendas altogether in the U.S. including all the Foreign Trade Agreements like NAFTA. I have a lot of friends who are legal immigrants here and I love them being here. THEY are the fabric America is made of. The American Companies that advertise in Mexico should be forced to say that they are only hiring legal immigrants (we have plenty) and be regulated into enforcing it. Most all Arizona resort businesses are staffed with illegal labor.
@HAL9000Intelligence Regardless of what side of this debate you are on, why don't you blame the corporations for lobbying (buying off) the political system to create a system where undocumented blue collar workers and white collar visa immigrant workers (mostly from China & India) flood the work force by DESIGN (deliberate) for all the work that can't be outsourced to these countries. If you want to blame someone, you should 1st look at big business who dont care about USA
@azmildman It is interesting how you blame "illegals" for working here(I'm third generation so I'm not talking about me or my family). But do the businesses and corporations have any responsibility for hiring "undocumented" workers? Have you ever heard about the American companies that advertise in Mexico about job opportunities in various U.S. states? Look it up as it is true. You must know, or should, that our immigration policy is dictated by big business who buy off politicians
@1pocho3000 Teenagers used to have summer jobs here, there was always "part time work" and pickup manual labor jobs for people who were unemployed. It is now either farmed out to the Coyotes who bring in slave farms busloads of illegals or they hire them directly and pay them in cash everyday. The young people here have resorted to doing things like selling candy door to door and phone sales just to have a job since all the low paying unskilled jobs for unemployed or young people are gone.
@1pocho3000 That is exactly right and when you have the laws enforced the way they are written, then you have Joe Arpaio. Undocumented means they lost their papers, these people committed a felony that we would get shot and killed for trying in Mexico. You are correct about corporations not caring about anything but profit. And I live in Arizona where all the resorts, all the construction that is still going on, and most manual labor is being done at slave wages by illegals.
@BeautyBoyTV The rules WERE THAT you have to be a Rich White Male to be in the club. Now you just have to be Rich and not have any political correctness or social awareness.
@BeautyBoyTV I used to work for O.I.C. and one of our lead counselors gave a speech that woke me up. He asked all the students who they thought the government hated. He said no when someone answered to any race that was suggested and asked, "Now, can anyone answer?" I said, "Poor people!", he replied that was exactly right. Because the majority of minorities don't transcend their financial requirements to join in the Rich Old White Club but some minorities with money who want to be a tokens.can.
@azmildman Someone who actually looks past the hype the deliberately and strategically divides people, yet doesn't ever touch the surface & root cause of the issue. And who says intelligent debate doesn't occur on-line! When you count the amount of pregnant women who do this it's a drop in a bucket, or maybe a sea compared to the hundreds of thousands of "undocumented" immigrants from all over the world. who get hired by big & small businesses-that is the root issue
1pocho3000 2 weeks ago
Ask yourself, if you were a pregnant woman about to go into labor any day (moment) and you are really ready to give birth. Would you choose that time to go out and run across a desert in that condition? NO, so they have an agenda in coming here then. It isn't a coincidence that it happened at that time in their lives. If you ever saw a "drop house" where most of them live when they first come here you would think the rats comment was appropriate. He is being framed as being angry and intolerant
azmildman 2 weeks ago
@1pocho3000 I agree that we need to get rid of fat cat agendas altogether in the U.S. including all the Foreign Trade Agreements like NAFTA. I have a lot of friends who are legal immigrants here and I love them being here. THEY are the fabric America is made of. The American Companies that advertise in Mexico should be forced to say that they are only hiring legal immigrants (we have plenty) and be regulated into enforcing it. Most all Arizona resort businesses are staffed with illegal labor.
azmildman 2 weeks ago
@HAL9000Intelligence Regardless of what side of this debate you are on, why don't you blame the corporations for lobbying (buying off) the political system to create a system where undocumented blue collar workers and white collar visa immigrant workers (mostly from China & India) flood the work force by DESIGN (deliberate) for all the work that can't be outsourced to these countries. If you want to blame someone, you should 1st look at big business who dont care about USA
1pocho3000 3 weeks ago
@azmildman It is interesting how you blame "illegals" for working here(I'm third generation so I'm not talking about me or my family). But do the businesses and corporations have any responsibility for hiring "undocumented" workers? Have you ever heard about the American companies that advertise in Mexico about job opportunities in various U.S. states? Look it up as it is true. You must know, or should, that our immigration policy is dictated by big business who buy off politicians
1pocho3000 3 weeks ago
@classicmovielover2 misspelled but completely correct.
azmildman 3 weeks ago
@1pocho3000 Teenagers used to have summer jobs here, there was always "part time work" and pickup manual labor jobs for people who were unemployed. It is now either farmed out to the Coyotes who bring in slave farms busloads of illegals or they hire them directly and pay them in cash everyday. The young people here have resorted to doing things like selling candy door to door and phone sales just to have a job since all the low paying unskilled jobs for unemployed or young people are gone.
azmildman 3 weeks ago
@1pocho3000 That is exactly right and when you have the laws enforced the way they are written, then you have Joe Arpaio. Undocumented means they lost their papers, these people committed a felony that we would get shot and killed for trying in Mexico. You are correct about corporations not caring about anything but profit. And I live in Arizona where all the resorts, all the construction that is still going on, and most manual labor is being done at slave wages by illegals.
azmildman 3 weeks ago
@BeautyBoyTV The rules WERE THAT you have to be a Rich White Male to be in the club. Now you just have to be Rich and not have any political correctness or social awareness.
azmildman 3 weeks ago
@BeautyBoyTV I used to work for O.I.C. and one of our lead counselors gave a speech that woke me up. He asked all the students who they thought the government hated. He said no when someone answered to any race that was suggested and asked, "Now, can anyone answer?" I said, "Poor people!", he replied that was exactly right. Because the majority of minorities don't transcend their financial requirements to join in the Rich Old White Club but some minorities with money who want to be a tokens.can.
azmildman 3 weeks ago