William McDonough on Ecocities in China

Pipe dreams. See "Chinas Grand Plans for Eco-Cities Now Lie Abandoned" on the Yale website

All great concepts but what about the embedded energy to construct the roads, buildings, infrastructure? What fuels to power transit? What of the city vehicles, electrical lines, power plants - what about all that? Looks great on paper but where are the details?

isn't it worth a try? can more be lost?

Of course it can be done, this is how we were meant to live!

a great idea on paper... but it's going to be an uphill struggle to effectively implement it and to have the locals successfully sustain it.

Amazing. It's hard to believe it can be done.

I agree to that, lemdixon01.