CF-105 Avro Arrow

1997 news spot on the Avro Arrow from CBC News (The National). The Avro CF-105 Arrow was a delta-wing interceptor aircraft, designed and built by Avro Aircraft Limited (Canada) in Malton, Ontario, Canada, as the culmination of a design study that began in 1953.

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Autos & Vehicles

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• Airplane
• Avro
• Arrow
• CF-105
• CBC
• News
• Canada
• Malton
• 1997

[Michael500ca]

@wandererprime Interesting comments from an American. True it would have been outdated soon, but the spinoff technologies would have been beneficial to Canada.

[LeopoldPlumtree]

@mahoganyrush300 Did I say he said 70% commonality? If you read that person's message carefully (it shouldn't take long), it is stated that the Arrow's pieces were used to build the space shuttle, presumably referring to the US shuttle orbiter. Of course, such a claim is completely false, but maybe it was just a silly metaphor.

Jim Chamberlin became a US citizen is the mid-'60s, so his contributions to NASA are basically as American as Jim Floyd's Avro Canada contributions are Canadian.

[redifreddy14]

@Rey123Duncan agrees mostly ...but believe it or not ... the arrow flew as fast as our present f-18's was tracked at 1358 mph without the Iroquois engines ...and designed to fly as high as the SR-71,(70,000 ft) I'd say that was a success back in 58, considering France to this day is committed to the Arrows delta wing design...

[wandererprime]

@wandererprime Final Addendum: In conventional(Not asymetrical warfare), an enemy could either cut off supply routes with a naval and aerial blockade or put pressure on your foreign suppliers to halt or cut down exportation via diplomatic channels.

As we could discern having a static military economy would have less logistic shortfall even if you're producing at a loss in the first decade or so. You're correct on that assertion, my good sir.

[wandererprime]

@wandererprime Continue: Unfortunately for all of us, the future is hazy so no one can say when relationships with friendly governments will go bad. You might be locked into a scornful diplomatic squabble at best, or at worst bellicose struggle with your former supplier.

[wandererprime]

@wandererprime Continue: The reason the government made the wrong decision was because having a domestic military industry offers more long term advantages than buying better, foreign hardware. That's revenue that stays within your own country without it hemorrhaging into another economy.

[wandererprime]

@wandererprime Continue: Their decision was to cut funding into a project they believed a money pit, but ultimately this was the wrong decision but also understandable. This was a time where western governments tried to maintain financial solvency. I think what sealed the project's fate was lack of interest in foreign markets.

[wandererprime]

@wandererprime Continue: The problem is that the working models never achieved that stage of aerial supremacy.

The working model was decent, but not as ground-breaking as advertised. Reviewing the results, the paymasters(I.E. Government) were left wondering if they could justify spending tens of billions on a project when it would be cheaper to buy foreign aircraft that were comparable in performance.

[wandererprime]

@Michael500ca It is true that a domestic market is far more advantageous than importation for military hardware,

but certain consideration had to be taken.

If I recall correctly, the reason the government cancelled the Avro Arrow was monetary; that is to say, if it would ever see a return investment.

The two outstanding issues were the cost of the project -

If the Avro Arrow had achieved its theoretical potential it most certainly would have been worth the effort

[wandererprime]

@bobette360 You are right. Thank you for correcting me, sir.