Is the Roman Mass a Propitiatory Sacrifice - James White versus Robert Sungenis - Cross-Exam 2 of 4

Sungenis-White Mass Debate Cross-Exam 2 of 4

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[anonazero]

@danipulokad thats correct. the catholic church was a political move by the roman govt. that is why there is so much roman superstition throughout it.

[anonazero]

@Skyethur are you aware that what you just quoted in no way supports your assertions?

the church is one, the church is holy and being sanctified by God, the church is unified and diverse, and the church does exist despite the best efforts of the catholic church to exterminate and suppress it through bloodshed and totalitarian control.

[danipulokad]

@Skyethur again i would ask if the Spartans dominated the world during the Lord Jesus Time, would accept the fact that i wouldnt be "Roman" Catholic Church but Spartan Catholic Church? and the seat of the pope be in Sparta?

[danipulokad]

@timothyprescott kindly read what i stated earlier i said that the roman catholic church formally apostatise when it formally declared as an instiution that it is denying the Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ

[danipulokad]

@timothyprescott kindly prove your point sir that Christ founded an institutional church? again would you admit that if the Spartans dominated the world during Jesus Christ time that the church founded by Christ would then be Spartan Catholic Church?!

[danipulokad]

@timothyprescott how can your claim that your church is founded by Christ when your church kept adding to His Word and His sufficient work! your church has done alot of shame and damageto the Gospel of Jesus Christ

[timothyprescott]

Also again if the Church of Christ apostatised at Trent, then tell me why your Church doesn't practice Baptismal Regeneration? Any true scholar knows that is easily the most clearly testified patristic belief in the apostolic era. ANSWER THE QUESTION WITHOUT GIVING A RED HERRING!!!

[timothyprescott]

If then you dont believe in Transubstantiation as not being biblical then the Church did not apostatise at Trent, but the Fourth Latern Council in 1215, which defined this ancient belief- so it shows quite clearly that you are groping at loose straws and clearly know zilch Church History, except what your apostate mentor John MacArthur and Calvin told you.

[timothyprescott]

@danipulokad That is nice apostate rhetoric, but you haven't proved anything, but put another smokescreen to lead me down a rabbit hole! Again, built on your false assumption that the 'Church of Christ' apostatised at Trent, then at least by the 16th there was only 'ONE CHURCH' founded by Christ, so again apostate you have shot yourself in your foot - by admitting Christ founded ONE CHURCH!

[timothyprescott]

@danipulokad No sir your demon inspired 'apostate church' was founded in the 16th, mine was founded by Christ, since you CANT GIVE ME A CLEAR DATE WHEN IT WAS FOUNDED- AND ADMITTED IT APOSTATISED AT TRENT (which I deny) the burden on proof is on you not me to back up you own assertions! You are the squirmer since you cant show me the thousands of 'apostate churches', which Christ condemns and says he will build His Church, not thousands of false ones!