NCSE's Drs. Scott & Gishlick take on the "Great Flood"

Drs. Eugenie Scott & Alan Gishlick discuss the "Great Flood" in the Grand Canyon

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Science & Technology

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• grand canyon geology
• creationism

[Bueller007]

You mean Noah's flood wasn't real?

But it sounded so scientific!

[Friendo1231]

It's never tiresome. Hearing the preposterous claims creationists make, that is. The Great Flood is among one of my favorites (the Biblical flood and account of Noah just borrows from the older Mesopotamian Gilgamesh flood myth, which featured a man by the name of Utnapishtim and his cubical ark).

Answers in Genesis' claim that oil was just magically poofed into existence by god and was not formed naturally is just as funny, but the flood allows for more thing to be debated on.

[jebstuart]

No, they don't really claim this. The time frame of oil generation is controlled by a number of factors, which in the AiG model would be exceptional and (potentially) plausible. And no, I don't support the AiG position, it is still internally inconsistent on this point (i.e. those exceptional conditions *sometimes* work case-in-point, but not within the whole paradigm), but there's no point in making false accusation. It just makes one look equally ignorant and desperate.

[pocoapoco2]

Don't you see that looking at it in the way you just stated is, in all seriousness, exactly the same way that creationists look at it. Don't say "I really don't see how". Instead understand and accept that it does happen and figure out how and why. You know inplicitly that there is an answer to the how and why.

[omiteru]

The science presented by both Scott and Gishlick is obviously simple. It isn't really science by geology. When will people stop these "religious nuts" for damaging children's education.

[rationalmuscle]

Does AIG actually claim this? Wow... I know they're desperate, but I didn't think they would ...

... wait. Of course I knew they would. ; )

[Desertphile]

Some parts of the canyon system of the Colorado Plateau are around nine million years old; other parts are about six million years old--- as recently dated using the exposure of zircon to solar radiation. That means Gilgamesh's flood must have lasted at least three million years. How do Creationists explain that? SMIRK!

[magick205]

@campasini: It's easy. Start 'em off young, load on the fear! Ever see Jesus Camp? That is some of the most hideous brainwashing and indoctrination I've ever had the misfortune of witnessing. Once this ideology becomes part of your identity, how can you give it up? Some people never will despite the proof they are presented with. What makes it even harder are organizations like Discovery Institute or Answers in Genesis that muddy the waters with their BS.

[campasini]

i really dont see how anyone can just ignore the facts and be a creationist.