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.45 Double Action Combat Pistol Shoot Off (Part 1)

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Uploaded by on Dec 13, 2010

Special guest and IPSC shooter "DC" and I take a look at four different double action .45 "combat autos." We'll be featuring the HK45, HK USP45, FNP-45 and the Sig P220. All four of these pistols are outstanding choices but we thought it would be fun to share our thoughts and impressions with the Youtube community. Remember that there is a lot of subjectivity involved but you'll have the perspectives of at least two accomplished shooters and firearms enthusiasts.

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  • @HYBRIDCOMBATIVES although I love my M&P I do disagree with this assessment. Different strokes for different folks...I just happen to be of the school of thought that I grew up shooting a S&W N Frame. So, the transition to something that has a consistent trigger pull and bonehead safety (trigger mechanism and chamber indicator) equated to a clip fed pistol that is revolver reliable and quicker to reload. The other pistols with the SA/DA never felt right for me, personally.

  • @Patriot36 It isn't that I don't "like" them. I have owned plenty of SIGs and CZs. I just don't think they are viably competitive with the new technology. Certainly a 2012 Hybrid Toyota doesn't invalidate a 1967 Mustang, but I am sure you get my reasoning considering a technological advantage. The consistant trigger of a striker fired gun is certainly one of the technological advantages intended to surpass the DA/SA. In defensive applications this consistency is a huge advantage

  • @HYBRIDCOMBATIVES for clarity i am referring to production class, not open class which certainly is still dominated by 1911 race guns with some cz types in there as well.

  • @Patriot36 sivigny took the USPSA open class with a Glock 35. It is a growing trend that will only get bigger until the striker guns squeeze out the competition.

  • @HYBRIDCOMBATIVES Your posting an answer to a question or statement that was never asked. You're still talking about IDPA which isn't USPSA or IPSC. Furthermore, there is no Open division in IDPA. Lastly, you got off on a competition related kick, which has little to do with the fact that DA/SA still holds a solid spot in today's firearms market. I'm honestly baffled over your dedication to voicing the the world that all DA/SA's suck. You don't like them, we get it.

  • @Patriot36 I can show you the stats from the 2010-2011 stats. Glock is dominant by a big margin.

  • @HighDesertOutpost I am an M&P guy as well. 1911>Glock>M&P

  • @HYBRIDCOMBATIVES I guess the USPSA world hasn't yet been enlightened to the advancements in glock triggers produced by the gunsmiths that you know. By 2013, 1911's will likely be abandoned completely. Seriously though, the DA/SA still has a place as evidenced by the market. There are people out there who are better off with a heavy first pull but yet benefit from the lighter pull thereafter. The partial alternative is a NY trigger on the glock, without the lighter 2nd pull.

  • @Patriot36 Seeing as I do my own work in my own shop I am pretty aware of the design engineering.

  • @Patriot36 I shoot competition and gave done so for 20 years. I am fully aware of the models used, and you will be hard pressed to find more than a few da/sa guns in stock or open class. There are plenty of statistics out there and I assure you that Glock is the #1 pistol in IDPA. I personally know a gunsmith that builds glock short break triggers that are as clean and fast as ANY custom 1911.

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