RedBeetle and The 3rd Use Of The Law, Gordon H. Clark

Monty's 3rd use of the law proves nothing.

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[fivepointbaptist]

Its truly sad that we have to deal with this type of non sense within our "own camp." Nevertheless, keep exposing these heretics and apostates! SDG

[1689Baptist]

@fivepointbaptist God bless you brother

[Blogrich55]

Monty likes to lie and pretend we deny the 3rd use of the law. Yet this is EXACTLY what Lightspeed52 and I have ALWAYS taught. We have NEVER taught that obedience to the law was part of justification. Justification by faith alone is the sufficient cause and sanctification is the necessary effect.

"It is the purpose of justification to produce holy lives." WDPB? pg 137

Monty should know this. But then truth, integrity, and apparently logic are NOT high on his list of priorities. God bless you!

[1689Baptist]

@Blogrich55 Amen brother, just to let you know Monty is commenting about you over here.

[batman201ful]

redbeetle doese not know how to love others so there for he does not know God for Godis love. 1John 4:7-21

[doctorh2005]

@Blogrich55

"Monty misrepresents Clark big time. He has been putting words in Clark's mouth for some time."

The Word speaks of many wolves "in sheeps clothing" who try to use other Christians to promote their false teaching.

:-)

[Blogrich55]

@doctorh2005 The point Jeff, Tom, and I are making is that Monty misrepresents Clark big time. He has been putting words in Clark's mouth for some time. THIS is why he refuses to answer the basic question we posed. Clark said that good works are obligatory. They are NOT part of justification. NONE of us believe that. They are a part of salvation for, as Clark says, salvation is a very broad term. Some like Monty want to equate the word with justification and make good works optional.God bless!

[skintightpotato]

@skintightpotato

cont.

Is it just an assertion you are making? What is your basis for this? Is there any point at which his statements are preceded with the specification that "this is the Gospel proper," or "this is the Gospel in its narrow sense..." followed by the quotes you give? How do you know, when he speaks of discipleship, he is not speaking of the Gospel in its wide sense? This is all the same question. I'd like to know how you arrive at your conclusion.

[skintightpotato]

@cccathena Monty, I am not being antagonistic, but am looking for a sincere answer. I'll use your most recent video as an example, but this also applies to the types of accusations you make, in a more general sense.

Since you consistently belabor the distinction between the Gospel proper, or its narrow/wide sense, how do you know that JMac for example (as in your last video), is not speaking of the Gospel in its wide sense in the quotes you pull? How are you deducing this?

cont.

[zacqt]

@cccathena Monty you don't understand the 3 types of law, you often contrast the Mosaic law & Gospel grace but seem ignorant of The Royal Law. The Mosaic law was/is the guide, The Royal Law is what all Christians are still under or subject to even now(Rom3v31). When people reject the Royal Law they deny Christ. Jude v4 warns about grace abusers.

Eph2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them. +Matt7v19~21.

[Blogrich55]

@cccathena I notice you refuse to answer our new video SILENCING THE LAMBS, Monty. You prefer to snipe at us using a sock account from the safe distance of Jeff's video instead. it would seem you cannot answer our charges. Of course I do not answer under YOUR videos because you have blocked me. Typical Jesuit tactic.

[Blogrich55]

@cccathena "You claim..."

So Monty I see you persist in lying. I do NOT believe in justification by faith PLUS works. I do believe that even though good works are not meritorious they are nevertheless necessary. Salvation means MORE than justification. Please see our video SALVATION IS A VERY BROAD TERM according to Dr Gordon H Clark. I also see you have not yet responded to my question:

Do you agree or disagree with Clark when he said we cannot be saved without good works?

[doctorh2005]

Hey good video. Monty nailed by his own "favourite theologian of all time" LOL