Holland vs. Italy supposidly offside goal
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so was it offside?
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Think about it. What would stop a defender from just stepping behind the goal line to put an attacker in an offside position?
He has to be counted. Imagine if he weren't, and the AR moved up to get in line with the 'NEW' 2LD, and all of the sudden the injured player got up and stepped back on the field? Now the AR is out of position. And he has too much to watch and think about to keep an eye on this guy and when he may get up.
This is onside and this is taught in referee classes.
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@mikedelpiero9 not under the laws. he is deemed to be on the goal line until the next stoppage. Seems strange but if the laws made an exception for injury you'd have defending palyers faking injuries off the back line all day
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the player is not on the field...indeed is offside
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but the defender is behind his own goal not just off the field, he may as well be in the stands!
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players cant leave the field without the ref permission so there is no offside
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@giriisindahouse I doubt he did so in this case but it's a good lesson to those who do.
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@wguynes why would the Italian player deliberately drop and roll here? He was injured by his own goalkeeper he wouldn't want his keeper to be yellow carded does he?
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@mamangas121995 doesn't matter. The position of the goalkeeper is irrelevant in that case. There is only ONE defending player between him and the goal when he receives the ball. Therefore, offside. it's that simple.
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According to the rule yes it is an offsiede for the resons mentioned though it is quite unfair is a player is INJRURED and the goal is allowed to stand, obviously there was a great deal of contact in this incident and no foul play by the italian player. He would've gotten up and played the offside trap if he was able to do so but he wasnt. I think there should be a clause placed into the rule so that at the ref's discression these factors could be taken into account in making a decision
"Any defending player leaving the field of play for any reason without the referees permission shall be construed to be on his own goal line or touch line for the purposes of offside until the next stoppage of play. If the player leaves the field of play deliberately, he must be cautioned when the ball is next out of play."
All refs received this memo on May 26 2009 following the 123rd Annual General Meeting of the International Football Association Board that took place on 28 Feb. 09.
buccos2324 2 years ago 19
a player cant step out the field withotu permission of the refferee, even if he gets knocked out by own team mate, if it was by a player from holland it was offside.
its and odd old rule.
even here in holland it was verry quiet untill we saw the highlight after 1 minute and some commentator told the rule.
so go figure how odd and old the rule is.
jmthebigman2 3 years ago 10