On March 6, 2010, during a panel at the Harvard Latino Law and Public Policy conference, Mark Krikorian, Executive Director of the Center for Immigration Studies (CIS), publicly distanced himself fromJohn Tanton for the first time. John Tanton is a white supremacist who was instrumental in the founding of CIS along with many other nativist organizations in the United States. For more on this watch:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpiq1nAK4a0
@RapingDivinity from the hateful comments I've seen attributed to John Tanton, I wholeheartedly disagree with you. It appears Krikorian, above, does too. Why else would he distance himself?
kyledeb 1 year ago
@kyledeb Every cause has individuals belonging to it that may be seen as "extremists." Religions across the globe, political parties, and environmentalists alike. Returning to the original point, the Tantons do not fit this description or classification. They are simply outspoken people who are easy to point the finger at. They have never done anything to harm anyone. Instead they have done much to better their community and the communities across the U.S. Btw 9 billion is very DANGEROUS
RapingDivinity 1 year ago
@RapingDivinity Population is set to level off at 9 billion. While that is a lot of people and our environment is certainly taxed, trying to limit that argument of less people = less problems to narrow nationalist thinking is not only unintelligent, it is dangerous, and leads to messed up views of those like John Tanton, and that Discovery Channel guy.
kyledeb 1 year ago
@kyledeb And because some psycho (discovery store guy) and old native-minded ethnocentric (Tanton) are media spectacles it makes their argument less credible? Galileo and others were thought to be heretics and blasphemers only until the credibility of their observations became undeniable by the masses. I no way endorse hate speech or violence, but a message that is as true and clear as less population = less problems must be supported
RapingDivinity 1 year ago
@RapingDivinity you're whole less people = less pollution idea sounds a lot like the screed of that guy who just held hostages in the Discovery Channel headquarters.
kyledeb 1 year ago
@RapingDivinity The quotes I've seen written by John Tanton are all in letters. You might like some of his ideas, but how can you excuse the nativism and hate he has clearly espoused?
kyledeb 1 year ago
@kyledeb It is a factor that is true for all nations that are developed versus those that aren't. When your first priorities are safe food, water, and shelter, who cares where you leave your trash. Or what resources you burn through to get there. Less people = less pollution = more fresh water = more clean air = more open space = more food for everyone. The Tantons are just chopping at the base of a very large tree, and everyone wants to hate them for it.
RapingDivinity 1 year ago
@kyledeb someone might be offended retards actions that may provide great benefit. The Tantons don't divide on racial lines, rather I see them as a "by the numbers" type of couple with particular views about what traditional U.S. culture is. Have you ever met an older person who didn't talk about how much better things were in the "good ol' days?" It all boils down to more people sharing fewer resources conflicting with US standard of living & limiting unnecessary waste
RapingDivinity 1 year ago
@kyledeb Allegedly said. I wasn't there to hear him say it, and I don't believe you were either. Seldom do we ever get full context when dealing with inflammatory "quotes," especially when the subject matter is so "controversial." I read An Introduction To American Conservationism and I got the full effect of what the Tanton's are really about. His message about population and immigration's effects upon it are very real, no matter how unsettling Griping about what is to sensitive and how.....
RapingDivinity 1 year ago
@RapingDivinity Really you're defending John Tanton? Have you read some of the racist things he's said?
kyledeb 1 year ago