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Prices are U.S. prices and are based on MSRP and dealer invoice (according to Kelley Blue Book). The Mustang and Challenger have MSRP's and dealer invoice of under $30,000 while the Camaro is slightly over $30,000 ($31,070 MSRP and $30,677 invoice).
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The Camaro, Challenger and Mustang were arranged (in the video) based on what I thought worked best for the video and not rating (ascending or descending). The specific models mentioned may not be exactly as shown.
0-60 mph for the Challenger R/T is based on the majority of online posts by owners (4.80 to 5.0 sec). However, the best observed by Motor Trend was 5.0 seconds. 1/4 mile times are based on testing performed by Motor Trend.
0-60 mph and 1/4 mile times for the Mustang GT are based on testing performed by Motor Trend.
0-60 mph and 1/4 mile times for the Camaro SS are based on testing performed by Car and Driver.
The reason why I said Toyota thinks you can get nothing is because they are not offering any car intended for spirited driving for around $30,000. If the Camry were to be included, the power rating is 268 hp which is still far less than the Camaro, Challenger and Mustang.
For around $30,000 or less:
Nissan's most powerful offering is the 370Z.
Mazda's most powerful offering is the Mazdaspeed3
Honda's most powerful offering is the Accord Coupe EX-L V6
Subaru's most powerful offering is the Impreza WRX (STI has a $33,995 MSRP and $32,894 invoice. If it were to be included, the power rating is 305 hp which is still far less than the Camaro, Challenger and Mustang)
Hyundai's most powerful offering is the Genesis Coupe 3.8
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power is not everything. i would like to see that mustang and camaro etc etc against a lotus elise or exige of 200 hp. however, great cars the americans, being honest.
txopenjauer 1 month ago
@txopenjauer You can't compare Lotus cars because they are much harder to live with; less comfortable, less practical, much smaller, much lower and much more expensive. most of them cost over twice as much as the V8 muscle cars. Still, the Lotus Evora with 280 hp is 0.3 of a second quicker than a Mustang GT and 1.2 seconds quicker than a Camaro SS on VIR as tested by Car and Driver which would be a driver's race. that's very impressive handling considering their convenience, DD ability and cost.
TheAmericanAutos 1 month ago
@TheAmericanAutos about the price, in Europe a lotus exige with 220hp costs more or less 60.000$, a camaro ss 55.000$. not much difference. about their performance in a race, people don't race in tracks usually, they go fast on curvy roads (depends on the country), and here a lotus wins. The main thing I wanted to say is that power is not so important. The ratio weight-power is the point.
txopenjauer 1 month ago
@txopenjauer you still don't get it. the Ariel Atom would be cheaper than the the Lotus and better on a curvy road, is the Lotus is bad? you can't compare different classes. the Lotus is easier to live with than the Atom. the Camaro is easier to live with everyday than the Lotus. you have to sacrifice something for light weight; convenience (smaller and fewer features) or low cost (a lot of light weight materials). the Camaro is a very track capable GT car not a lightweight track car.
TheAmericanAutos 1 month ago
@TheAmericanAutos ok true. if you are talking about everyday cars there is nothing such powerful as a camaro or mustang or genesis. have a look at the insingnia opc, here in europe the price is very competitive, maybe it's a new competitor for the stangs and maros.
txopenjauer 1 month ago
@txopenjauer 1- I have no interest in the Genesis. It's a Hyundai and a lot less powerful and slower than the Mustang or Camaro for almost the same money.
2- The Opel Insignia OPC is less powerful, slower and slightly more expensive. Compared to the Mustang and Camaro, the Insignia OPC gives a little more convenience (more backseat room and AWD if you get snow) but sacrifices in the performance and cost departments.
TheAmericanAutos 1 month ago